Uncharted 4: A Spoiler Free Chat - The Lobby

Uncharted 4: A Thief's End is a hit. The crew chat, without spoilers, about what it is that Naughty Dog did to make this game so great.

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Unborted 4 ? yaaaawn

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Great discussion guys, I appreciate you taking the time to give honest opinions without spoiling things for those of us that haven't finished the campaign yet.

A weird side note...

It frustrates me when Danny says (and I've heard him say it about loads of games) there's some disconnect between the small, personal, emotional story moments and the rest of the game when the action has you "murdering hundreds of people"... The flaw in that thinking is the perception of "murder."

In games like GTA, Just Cause, WatchDogs, etc. (with vulnerable civilian populations), killing some people would be considered murder. But killing ≠ murder. Especially in a militaristic setting (such as Drake vs Mercenaries), it's not murder. There is a different moral component at work when killing an innocent as opposed to killing someone who is trying to kill you back.

If it had you actually murdering people (a la "No Russian" in CoD:MW2), I too would definitely feel a disconnect with the "moral lessons" of a game like this. But I don't in this game, because I'm killing mercenaries who shoot at me every chance they get... I'm not "murdering hundreds of people." Just like Doom-guy isn't "murdering" hundreds of demons.

I know it's the difference in just one word. But words matter.

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@hushed_kasket: But there is no moral high ground in what Drake does. He seeks treasure and so do mercaneries. And they all are willing to kill for it.

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@nocny007: Not true. Without giving away any spoilers, the last moments of Chapter 15 demonstrate the differences between Nathan Drake and the mercenaries hunting him.

Besides, the concept of moral high ground is relative. It doesn't mean Drake has to be perfect, he just has to be more righteous or well-intentioned than his adversaries to have "the moral high ground," not to an absolute degree.

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