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By Cameron Robinson | @camfrazrob, Lucy James | @lucyjamesgames, and Seb Ford | @ReadySebbyGo on August 20, 2015 at 12:30PM PDT
Lucy James breaks down the week's hottest gaming thing In 2 Minutes or less.
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Some of these are still good, but I still cannot get over the one basically giving a pass to devs for releasing crap pc ports because its "hard."
I don't care about these new anti pirating programs. Just they better figure out a way to make sure they don't affect pc performance. The one used in Batman seems pretty bulletproof. Anything that leads to greater sales on pc leads to greater interest and I am all for that.
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That GTA IV one looks like fun, if I didn't have it already, I'd pirate that game just to have a laugh with it hahaha,
They should step it up a notch and have voice actors record some extra lines for pirates and speed runners. Like in RPG's, just before you fight a boss, instead of the boss saying what they might normally say, in a cracked version they might say "Since you like to pirate and take shortcuts, not only am I respawning infinite pirate goons that do 5 times whatever damage you do that will annoy you indefinitely, but I'm also resetting and disabling all console commands....plus I now have infinite health! Don't even think about installing a mod! Every save you make will be automatically corrupted!" Ha....ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Wish they would invest the time and money on the game rather than the friggin DRM... In the end pirates gets lesss buggy and better performing games thanks to cracks and we get the shaft :S
in my case, it was getting a job (and creating a steam account).
They should make some of these into DLCs...
Those "fun" anti-piracy measures can be entertaining but more often than not they totally backfire because unless they are totally bloody obvious people tend to think "Well this game is broken as hell. Good thing I tried before I bought so I didn't waste my precious money!" Also they only happen on the versions the developers themselves upload and not the ones cracked by the scene crews.
The best anti-piracy measures are the ones developers like CD Projekt RED and Colossal Order (Cities Skylines) are using. Keep updating the game and making it better and add free DLC so you actually get added value for buying it over pirating it. That video Danny did with CD Projekt on the site earlier so clearly shows this when they explain how they turned a country where software piracy was not only rampant but totally legal and approved by the state into a profitable market.
@vanti: I'm sorry, but the VAST majority of those who pirate don't do it to just test-drive a game before they buy, the majority will never buy a full-priced game no matter what or they are pirating because they cannot procure a legal copy of the game in their country do to government restrictions or absurd import fees.
Also, CD Projekt has gone on record stating that The Witcher 2 was illegally downloaded 4 times more than it was legally purchased. Their no DRM and free DLC tactics may paint them in a positive light, but the actual returns on those tactics are dubious. The fact is, if someone is going to buy your game they will buy it, if someone is going to pirate your game they will pirate it, and if someone cannot get your game any other way than piracy then it is up to the developer/publisher to determine if there is anything that can do to resolve that specific issue.
@vanti: You realize CDPR only plays the good guy card now because they used to get people arrested for stealing copies of Witcher 2 right?
Also, people usually aren't dumb enough to think a game is broken just because the illegal version is. Most of the time it's a bad crack (like in the case of Skyrim or Mirror's Edge, my cracked versions were horribly broken but my purchased versions work perfectly) People will look at reviews and other people's gameplay to find its value, not just base it off the experience of a day-one cracked version.
The best anti-piracy method is whatever drm gta v has. It's hilarious seeing pirates trying to get that game to work, poor peasants.
@wildemu: i remember the same talk about da:inquisition, yet it was cracked eventually.
there are cracked files for gta around the web, don't really know if or which might be working (don't really have a time for that sort of study). also, i don't think they ever cracked lords of the fallen. oh, and of course diablo 3 (which is a shitty game, btw, so who cares).
bottom line: almost everything can be cracked. however, if you make it complicated and tedious enough it's less likely the people will bother. on the other hand many people can't or won't give 60 bucks for a game, no matter what.
Played all these Games never saw any of these things. Except Eye patch for Alan W. :D
Half these sound like an extra challenge people would be in to.
These skits are brilliant. I'm not saying I'd watch an 11-minute sitcom type show featuring these two... but then I'm also not saying I wouldn't watch an 11-minute sitcom type show featuring these two.
Also I like to think Cam drinks nothing but Irn Bru.
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Didn't know about a few of those. Funny stuff
What about making demos for potencial customers to try before they drop 60$/60€ on a game? Pirates or rather crackers will almost always find a way to work around those "anti-piracy methods" the objective should be to make a game people enjoy and want to buy and not waste time making these stupid things that won't prevent piracy and sometimes "leak" into a legit game, and in some cases the pirated versions of the games are said to be "smother"or run better than a legit one (weird right?! but it happens).
Ubisoft did something like this with AC Unity. Players were subject to characters without flesh on their faces. The difference is that people were punished even if they paid for the game.
I had no idea there were so many creative anti piracy deterrents being used. Of course since I don't pirate games, I was clueless.
anti piracy hmm..make a game worth buying I guess
@Zombunny: Why would someone waste time pirating something not worth buying?
@Zombunny: Such a simple statement, yet so subjective. If only it were that simple.
Today there is no way you can't get enough information about a game from websites like GameSpot or from YouTube streamers to consciously say "I wasn't sure if I wanted the game, so I stole it first before I decided to buy it." What males something worth stealing, but not worth buying?
The fact is that a majority of pirates don't steal because a game isn't worth buying, they steal because they can't get the game by any other means. Either their country has a strict policy on games like China or even Australia or publisher/developers don't release the game in their region and shipping/importing/tax fees to their country are outrageous. The other side of that are pirates who have perfectly acceptable ways to buy games, but rarely do and pirate everything no matter what, unless they deem a particular game "worthy of their money", which seems to be where you are coming from. However, there is no cure for these pirates because there is no consensus between them on what constitutes a "worthy" game. Those are the pirates the above types of tactics are aimed at.
The unfortunate thing is that the entitled set of pirates ruins things for every one because we get garbage services like Uplay, installation limits, and companies implementing always-online requirements. And the people who pirate because they have no other option get crappy experiences meant for more malicious people.
Watch the piracy stats from The Witcher 3 to really see if "making a game worth buying" is the solution to piracy. I fully expect that, despite no DRM, free DLC, and 200+ hours of content, the game will be pirated just as much as every other game, possibly more. While there are no concrete stats, even CD Projekt themselves have gone on the record saying The Witcher 2, which also had no DRM, was lauded by the community, and contained dozens of hours of content, was illegally downloaded 4 more times than it was legally purchased.
This isn't to say more DRM is the answer, there isn't a single answer that will solve all piracy. The trouble with the tactics above and intrusive DRM is that it really only impacts the people who it is not targeting and may turn happy customers into disgruntled pirates.
Sorry of the rant... They sometimes happen ;-)
@StHapns247@Zombunny: Good rant, though.
The Game Dev Tycoon, was brilliant. I loved the fact that when the game came out. People who pirated it, were moaning on the official forums, that there company was losing money, because of in game piracy. The sheer irony of those comments.
Little did they know, most of these anti-pirate bugs get patched up in a few days time. Heh heh yahaaarg!
food piracy,hmm...doesn't the USA sell basically glued on leftover meat and pass it off as real meat? dont get me started on fake eggs on china!
This sort of article always seems somewhat disingenuous. The premise seems to be "here are some creative DRM that work!" but I think if someone went out and downloaded any of these games, they could find workarounds that circumvented any of these "solutions". At best, these represent early issues circulated by the developers distributing altered builds--which raises the interesting question if any of those issues were piracy to begin with. If the developer is freely distributing the game to the public, then it isn't stealing: not anymore than a press build. Even if people are downloading the game through channels used by pirates, if the people selling the game are giving it away (albeit to trick people) then it cannot be an illegal act.
I must therefore conclude that they are not deterring piracy in the long term, nor the short with these methods. At best, they are "outting" would-be pirates in a way that is legally unfeasible to act on.
@Verenti: So if I go out in the street and leave a pile of money there, if someone takes it it isn't stealing? Because I just kind of left it out there?
Just because they leak a version of the game doesn't really mean they WANT people to take it.
@Ayato_Kamina_1: Just to be clear that would not be stealing, no. If you reference h%%p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft_by_finding you'll see that finding money lying around in a public place and picking it up is completely legal.
Finders keepers! thhhhbbbbbttt!
@Ayato_Kamina_1@Verenti: actually, legally speaking, it's unclear whether that pile of dollars belongs to the government or the first person who finds it, but it certainly no longer belongs to you if you intentionally abandon it
@Verenti: TL;DR: "I have no idea what I'm talking about."
@jasonmzk@Verenti: Best ironic post award!
These "In 2 Minutes" videos are informative and entertaining. Thanks!
But... that post-segue yelling is a bit rough to listen to. IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE VERBAL CAPS LOCK ON, LUCY! Then it sounds normal when you're talking to Cam again at the end.
Jumper, Haggis sandwich? What is the focal point here? Relax Sarah, did you just do a line or a rail of coke?
Still prefer what Starbreeze Studios did when they released Syndicate. Released their own crack for it.
The best anti-piracy method is, get this: making a good game!
People don't steal bad games. They steal good games. Why would anyone waste their time stealing a bad game?
Replace the word "steal" in your comment with the word "buy".
You guys crack me up every week with a little fun, some commentary, and some silly outtakes. Do you get paid for this?
The Witcher 3 is one game that I actually WANT to have some kind of an anti-piracy feature.
I can already imagine all those Eastern Europeans torrenting the game by the millions and thanking the main seeder for posting the game (not thanking the devs for making the game).
@PeterDuck: How about you don't post shit about the places you don't live in?
@PeterDuck: CD Projekt refrains from DRM, and that's why people respect them and all Eastern Europe bought Pre Orders to support them because they don't split the game in chunks and charge for DLC like horse armor and stuff and charge for it.
Only Eastern Europeans? lol ... let me rephrase that for you:
"I can already imagine all those people from the entire world torrenting the game by the millions[...]"
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@Mercaptan@PeterDuck: Sure you do. Pirates like to say this to justify there theft. It must make you feel nice inside to say something like this.
@Mercaptan@PeterDuck: You pirate games? You are a scumbag.
@PeterDuck: I want to believe this is some sort of clever satire How you slag off Eastern Europe, despite the game being made in ... Eastern Europe.