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on July 25, 2014 at 1:49PM PDT
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Im not sure what everyone is expecting.
So more expensive and less optimized than a console and doesnt have the customization of a PC. Amazing business plan
@grove12345 It does have the customization of a PC. It is a PC.
I'm sorry but that's just stupid. I have a killer pc already hooked up to my tv and I don't care for a smaller weaker version of what I already have. Are these steam machines gonna have a blu-ray player? What about a good sound card? My pc has both and I'm not downgrading my gaming experience. BS on steam and valve's part. Go for the console market with more powerful machines than ps4 and xbone for an affordable price.
DON'T YOU DARE MESS WITH MY STEAM MACHINE
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A steambox is a pc built specifically for gaming. So yes.
Targeting PC gamers with these is stupid. I already hook up my PC to my television and play controller optimized games with my Power A 360 controller. A lot of my friends do the same thing. The only thing new here for us is a controller which may or may not work well. If Steam wants these machines to be successful (which, honestly, I'd like to see) they need to target the console gamers.
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Valve wants to be the next Windows. Me personally? I would walk into a electronics store, tell them to look at my computer and recommend a CPU & Graphics Card, because that's all I really care about, they'll educate me, and then I'll buy the parts there or online after I look it up and do the math, and try to install it myself or get a friend to help me with it. Done, just saved tons of cash. The Steambox is for people who don't want to do that, even though you don't have to be a tech genius, I'm not. But today more people are becoming tech savy, the market for this Steambox is not looking good. I have a PS4, because its controller/tv gaming done right, perfected over many years. Sony also makes good electronics. And PS4 has many games that aren't for out for PC. So if a gamer wants to get the most for their buck, you have a custom PC $500, a PS4 $400, and maybe a Vita for when your girlfriend is watching Duck Dynasty for $200. $1100 bucks gets you a PC/PS4/Vita. I wonder what the price is for Steambox...
If you don't understand the point of Steam Machines, they're probably not for you. Steam made PC gaming simple for people like myself, who are primarily console gamers. I bought my PC with no intentions of gaming, but I play games because of Steam.
I don't need a new PC yet, but if I want to keep gaming on Steam in the future, I either need to upgrade my PC or I could simply buy a machine that is specifically made for Steam. There is a market for Steam Machines. You can easily tell, because a bunch of companies are currently making them.
@PS2fweak i understand that work and play shouldn't mix. consoles for life!
now isn't the time, they need to wait till midway through the ps4 life cycle (whats an xbone?).
derrrrr,.... build a computer, nahhhh,.... too lazy.
Dead on arrival.
cheaper? $600? smaller? the size of a frigobar? im totally lost. so, for $1500 that's more than enough for a gaming pc, and the cheaper versions can't compete with a 400 console! so mostly, it's just an overpriced pc with proprietary os problems. the more I read about steamboxes, the more I love my ps4. even without games. (btw, "don't starve" IS great.)
@JustinHaywald Broken Age BACKER! WOOT!
Unfortunate choice of words in that headline.
Sometimes I feel like I get what the Steam machines are about, but sometimes I'm more like: "Wtf are Valve thinking?". I dunno, it's just such a loose concept that seems to target a very small niche of consumers.
Way to rock the Adventure Backer shirt Justin.
Viva la Doublefine!
Barely released and they alredy break? wtf
From brilliant and innovative to stupid and redundant in one week... letting nearly 15 boxes hold the title of "steam machine" and the prices has just doomed this device... Is what I'd like to say but the ipad was a stupid and redundant device also and look how that turned out...
I'm callin it now, steam machines are next big FLOP! There is no real market and these guys are fans and as they talk you can see them start to realize that
@philippnovikov the cake is a lie :(
What a load of bollocks. PC gamers want to build their own system, not one that was assembled for them.
@SpookyJack Totally agree. This product seems destined for failure in my eyes
So it isn't trying to appeal to console gamers. Fine but surely PC gamers already have a gaming PC. Why would they want a steam machine? Seems very pointless to me
So...it's a pc, that's not as good as a pc, but costs more than a pc you can build yourself for a few hundred bucks, what?...
Man this generation of gaming is really REALLY a big let down
World of Tanks. That's what is important. At least for GameSpot financial department.
well my pc is right next to my tv already..soooooo
Can we not build our own Steam Machine? As in, build a PC and just install SteamOS? Or, just try and build a smaller rig and install Windows, and just connect it to the TV via HDMI?
I'm interested, just don't get the market this is aimed at.
I recognize the Steam Machine positioning is a bit muddled at this point with so many 3rd party assemblers attempting to compete. But what I don't comprehend is why more than a handful of people would want to buy an inferior device to their current pc rig just so they can play games on a tv. Most would just build their own. It's a tiny niche.
It seems more logical to serve the console only gamers put off by the price, hassle and confusion of pc gaming with a bare-bones pc spec, equivalent to PS4/XB1, at or very near that price point.
One problem may be that the low console prices are subsidized by higher individual game prices. The steam machines won't have that situation because much of the appeal of pc gaming is the lower prices for individual titles. Steam's current growth is based on cheap (!) games.
I think if this steam machine product is going to sell in significant numbers it must compete at the same price as the latest consoles. That's where the volume is and that's why Valve are pushing this project in the first place. Valve already has the customers Peter and Justin mentioned. They want new people to use their services.
very nice post. It sums up nicely why this endeavor makes NO sense.
@cratecruncher My computer IS hooked up to my TV already, so... Yeah, the steambox definitely has some strange positioning. The thing of it is, I'm not sure it matters to me whether it succeeds or not.
@Xenrathe @cratecruncher With so many (non-gamer) pc users abandoning their desktops for tablets and smart phones there is a danger that hardware innovation may slow. Anything that breathes new life into the pc desktop format is a good thing.
Have you played GTA5 yet on your pc? It's way too early to tell where this is going but maybe as console installed base tumbles the exclusive title thing will be a harder sell to publishers.
Why would anyone sane ever think that alienware's steam machine will be the most price competitive?!!