Lost Between Levels Special Edition: Valve

Shaun visits the house that Half-Life built to meet some of its talented employees and to learn more about the company culture that inspires them.

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Valve needs to get off their lazy asses and make a HL 2 EP 3, HL 3, or admit they have run out of ideas, they have been side stepping HL with side projects like Left4Dead, and Portal yet no word about their flagship game. HL 2 EP 2 came out in 2007 and they ended it with a cliff hanger that was to be picked up with HL 2 EP 3 yet that game never got made nor have they done ANYTHING with the HL series since then. HL 2 only took 3 years to come out after HL:Blue Shift and it was talked about in that time as a "it is coming out, we are working on this HL 2 game", unlike then there has been no word on a HL 2 EP 3 nor a HL 3 at all being made.

"Valve Time" is also something gamers should never have accepted as being "ok" no matter how good the companty is or was.

I like Left4Dead and Left4Dead 2 but they should have been made AFTER the HL story was over via the 3rd episode or a HL 3.

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@Offworlder1 Consider this: if Valve did things the way you think they should (the way everybody else does it), their games would be disappointing, just like everybody else. The reason you want their game so bad is because they do things their way, and they make great games as a result. Grow up and have some patience.

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@Rippletonz @Offworlder1 No their games would not be dissapointing they would just have more people and more products on the market, they have been slow as hell the past few years and it shows with no games out nor "in the works" as they are not saying a thing. I don't really give a damn about Valve anymore, stopped caring after HL 2 EP 2 and almost completely after Left4Dead 2's last DLC.

I comment and criticize them now more then ever because they aren't doing **** yet people still kiss their butts when they have not done anything HL for years let alone anything else since 2011. CS:GO was garbage and a very poorly made as it took away more then it added and unlike CS:S did not do any big changes.

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@Offworlder1 MMmmmk. Enjoy your weekly shit shovel from EA/Activision/Etc.

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@Offworlder1 Calm down man, most of your arguments are invalid.

First of all they have multiple teams working on multiple things so they haven't side stepped anything.

Second of all Blus Shift wasn't made by Valve but by Gearbox (which is probably why it was just ok) and published by Valve's publisher at the time Sierra.

And finally it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out they've been developing HL3 on the new Source engine for the next generation of consoles (and PC of course, but waiting for consoles to be able to handle the new engine).

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@Daian @Offworlder1

If they have not announced or given any info for HL 3 or even what happened to HL 2 EP 3 it means they are not doing anything or are not confident in what they have done to talk about it to the public.

Valve needs to man the **** up and release info or just admit they don't have a damn thing, this BS with HL 2 EP 3/ HL 3 not having any update or news for so long is unacceptable. Even HL 2 had more info and news in the 2-3 years it was "in the making".

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@Welverin @Offworlder1 @Daian I would tend to side with offworlder on this one but no one knows for sure what's going on at Valve right now. They seem very secretive about projects(as they should). They did however leave a hell of a cliff hanger with the expansion EP which never was dealt with. After how many years? (5-6) I think it's safe to say that HL was put on the back burner, at least for some time. If I were to 'guess'- HL3 out in 2014-15. Who knows, right?

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@Offworlder1 @Daian The notion that because Valve isn't talking about the next Half-life game means they aren't working on it is just plain stupid.

If you really want to understand why Valve isn't talking about it you need to read about the development of Team Fortress 2* and Portal 2. Both games went through multiple versions, the first take of Portal 2 was something radically different from what we got. Gabe has actually said they don't want to talk about it because nothing is concrete and it will only annoy their fans even more (this was done so obliquely, since he gets in trouble whenever he actually mentions HL3).

You need to just accept that Valve won't talk about any of their games until they're good and ready and what they reveal isn't going to radically change before we get it.

* http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Team_Fortress_2#Development

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Valve are scared of the number 3.

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WHAT. THE ****? No mention of Half-Life 3? Shaun didn't even take the opportunity to ask Valve, on camera, about HL3? Why? What a wasted opportunity. Otherwise great video. As you can probably tell, I love their games. Please don't make us wait for HL3 for much longer, Valve.

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@x-2tha-z Easy to understand your disappointment. We didn't bother asking them about Half Life 3 because we already knew what the answer was going to be - likely along the lines of "We aren't here to talk about any projects we haven't announced yet". It became a running joke during our time there when we wanted to film people at their desks that our handler needed to run ahead of us and tell everyone in the area to "get all the half life 3 off everyone's monitors" so it would be safe to film.

I can say this much, there were a lot of areas of the studio that we didn't have access to because people were hard at work on unannounced projects. No real surprises there though.

Glad you took the time to watch the video, and hope you enjoyed it otherwise.

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Bravo, Shaun, and Gamespot. Excellent story, excellent topic, excellent interviews. This is the kinda content I love. In-depth, behind-the-scenes reporting with the people that make the games we play. Bravo.

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very cool.

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Maybe some other designers/publishers/developers could learn a few things from valve. Time and time again they give the people what they want even if the people don't always know what that is.


They have the right idea and if i was 25 years younger i would strive to earn employment there. By far the best games company out there.

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HL3 please.......

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The House that the Communist Party of USA built.

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@SKaREO lol WTF are you even talking about?

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Gosh I can't wait till HL3

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@cryomack Could still be a while though :(

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Wow amazing video!

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So my theory is proven correct. Managers are not necessary for a company to thrive as long as you hire the right people who aren't ego-centric douches.

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AWESOME!

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Portal 3.

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I wish they could improve TF2 loading issues.

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I'm thinking they were waiting for the next gen systems to come out before working on HL3. I don't think they thought it would take 8-9 years for that to happen. Hopefully we'll see it within a year or so.......hopefully.

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This video only fortifies my belief that Half-Life and Portal is in a very capable hands. Oh by the way Valve, give us some news about Half-life 3 please.


Lastly, its a good video bring out something more often like this.

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wish more games would support steamworks...


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It's strange, Half-Life was one of the best single-player, story-driven experiences in videogame history. But since then Valve is focusing solely on multiplayer games like CS, TF, L4D and Dota2 that are just about the game mechanics.There's no singleplayer and no story in those games. (And yes, both Portals are fun little SP gems, but puzzle games are not exactly the matter of my heart).

And since I'm very much story-driven, singleplayer gamer, I would love Valve to return back to its glorious SP roots and make Half-Life 3 already :)


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That video was pro. Great job Shaun.

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i love VALVE ... EA should learn some things from them.... nut i hate the 1 dollar = 1 euro .... BECAUSE IT DOES NOT !!!

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Valve seems out of touch.I'm a fan of the Half Life series but lets be honest.Valve hasn't kept up with technology and seems to be in a stupor while other developers put out games.Steam is a real bug fest and is just a pain to use.Half Life 3 should have been in this generation.Team Fortress 3 should have been out and it should have had realistic graphics not the cel shaded cartoon graphics of Team Fortress 2.The truth is that Valve is too slow and waste their time on games like the Left For Dead series.Millions of gamers have missed out on some great single player and perhaps coop with Half Life 3 and we could have switched off of the great Battlefield 3 from time to time for some Team Fortress 3.This didn't happen because of Gabe Newell being another George Broussard.

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@deltaveg " Out of touch" ....... I have no other comments.



Really?

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@deltaveg You are so wrong it's not even funny. Did you watch the video at all? Their business structure fosters creativity unlike any other, and all of their releases are ground-breaking. To say they're "out of touch" is a ridiculous statement. You did nothing but make blind conjectures based off of their release schedule. Apparently all you want is more crap shoveled onto your plate weekly. Good games take time and devotion to make.

Also, please list the bugs you experience with Steam. I have been using Steam for years now with no problems, and no "pain."

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@Rippletonz @deltaveg I have a great idea. They should release a new Half Life game that is slightly different than the last one once a year with bonus DLC, weapons, and micro transactions.

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Min 5:19 HL3???


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Washington State kicks ass. That is all.

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black ninja

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Outstanding video, great job guys!

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VALVE <3

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Loved this video, made me want to go back and play HL and HL2 again!


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Valve is the most respected Video Games and Digital Distributor among all, they know how produce quality products and keep supporting them which is the key of success, unlike Ubisoft crap, dumping games after 2-3 months of release while working on next titles to milk gamers.

anyway, music at the end is awesome, i wonder whats called?

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21may,,is the perfect timing to bring out hl3,,,they shoul do something crazy like they working on a brand new game based on tf2 but instead,,trailers,,images,,and then a sudden confirm that hl3 is actually coming out,,with a hidden chocolate then later announce the new counter-strike with it,,posting gabe nevell playics new cs called cs modern warfare millitia source 1.0

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They should do EA next.....so we can have a glimpse of what it's like to be in the belly of the beast.....It will probably be like Blair witch with shaky cam and Shaun running around screaming like a little girl.

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@frozenux Hahaha Good one :-D

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GAMESPOT Y U NO ASk VAVLE IF THEY LEARNED TO COUNT TO 3 ?!?!?!?!?!

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Valve is the real deal but damn it, just bring our HL 3!

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half life 3 - its like Zoolanders look 'MAGNUM'

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all this genius behind it, but they can't count to 3

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