GS News Update: Microsoft Responds to Xbox One Energy Consumption Concerns

Microsoft addressed Xbox One energy consumption concerns in the wake of a recent Natural Resources Defense Council report that blasted the Xbox One's Instant-On mode,

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DrDuncs

We have solar power so for probably 10hrs on average per day we are generating our own electricity which is often enough to cover our usage and feed some back into the public grid.

I typically leave my XB1 on instant on around the weekend so updates can install and then energy saver during the week when I don't play as much. I have found it plays up a bit if it's left on instant on for to long. Usually something like games not starting. Not sure if this is common?

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DeusVex

I know for a fact my X1 uses less energy than any other device/hardware I own.....well, to be fair it does stay unplugged....

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blprater

Eh, excuse me, my Xbone is consuming too much powa and is throwing a breaker. lol

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IndremaLover

We're talking about a few dollars a year - not unlike keeping your clock by your nightstand plugged in. This is an issue for some people? Wow.

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cejay0813

Wait what did they have to explain exactly?

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Fiol77

People still buying xbox one? OMG...

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cejay0813

Clever girl

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BusterFriendly

@fiol77: People still posting the same clichés thinking it's funny. OMG

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Fiol77

@busterfriendly@fiol77:

You keep replying now that's funny. OMG!

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BusterFriendly

@fiol77@busterfriendly: So, you're a teroll and admit it? That's pretty sad.

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Fiol77

@busterfriendly@fiol77:

So you reply to that too? How sad...

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BusterFriendly

@fiol77@busterfriendly: You're just making yourself look worse.

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oflow

My electric bill has gone up about $20 since I started using the xbox one. I know what the problem is though and I've been making requests on the official forums etc since I got my console. I'm pretty sure this is whats driving most peoples' bills up too.

Currently, the console has a power saver mode that cuts it off after a certain amount of time of inactivity. The problem is that active apps count as activity and when you are watching TV it counts as using an app so the console never turns itself off by itself even if the power saver mode is enabled when you have the tv app running.

I'm old and often fall asleep in front of the tv after work. often I forget to turn off the console so the tv stays on for hours til I wake up off the couch and goto bed which is whats running up the bill.

The simple fix is the tv app really needs a sleep timer to turn the tv app off after so many hours of inactivity then the console will power down with the power saver mode. Make it something long like 4 hours so it wont cut off during movie watching and it will be perfectly fine.


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herjolfr

@oflow: Nice try. Math must not be your strong suit. Even if you constantly played your xbox (the highest mode for energy consumption) for the full 24 hours of every day for 30 days, the only way your bill would go up $20 would be if your power company was charging you a quarter per kilowatt/hour, which would be ABSURD. To put that in context, I pay 11.42 cents per kWh. 110wats (average power consumption of the Bone while being played), x 24 hours x 30 days = 79,200 / 1000 = 79.2 kwh. Your $20 bill hike in cents (because thats how kwh is calculated) is 2000 cents / 79.2 = 25.25 cents.


To further put that into context, and use the the A/C comparison as brought up, a 6500 BTU air condition uses about 390 watts. So if you lived somewhere you had one of those running all day (maybe FL?), you'd be paying $70.90 per month JUST FOR YOUR A/C.


So you're either lying (which would be stupid; what would your motives even be? Do you even own an xbox? Or are you one of these scrubs that needs their console purchase/choice validated on the internet?), or you are in fact living somewhere with a power company that is bending its customers over a barrel.

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BDRTFM

@oflow: My air conditioner doesn't use $20 a month. Nice try though. Also, if you are watching TV using the TV app, of course the Xbox is going to stay on. You are using it. What is it supposed to do shutdown in mid use? Don't use the HDMI pass-through if it bothers you so much. And disable standby mode and install your updates yourself. Problem solved.

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oflow

@bdrtfm@oflow: what are you talking about? I know the extra power consumption is the tv staying on. If you actually read what I said I and many other people on the official xbox forums have requested a timer on the tv app to alleviate this problem.

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BusterFriendly

@bdrtfm@oflow: That must be a small A/C. Mine runs more like $200/month in mid-summer.

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oflow

@busterfriendly@bdrtfm@oflow: exactly. I dont know where this guy lives where his ac costs $20 a month. probably canada or something.

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cejay0813

Lies... Check your bill. Your bill going up $20 a month can't be anything related to the XB1

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BusterFriendly

@oflow: That would require something running around 250 watts 24x7. I don't even think that's possible on an Xbox One even running full tilt all the time. A big TV could do that.

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seanwil545

Bring on the Slim...E3?

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riotinto876

WOW, it must be a really slow news day for this to make it to a video.

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JRTexx

I'm sorry, but for the people that choose Instant On and then complain about their energy bills, it's their own fault, not Microsofts, Microsoft have given the choice, it's there to use.

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BusterFriendly

@jrtexx: You won't because it will cost maybe $1 a month . The cable modem and wifi is probably more than that.

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herjolfr

@busterfriendly@jrtexx: You can calculate a close estimated cost of your xbox using this formula. (110 watts (this is the absolute worst the xbox will suck energy) x how many hours per day you play it x 30 days) / 1000. This will give you your kWh usage. Multiply this by your power company's rate (in cents), / 100 = How much your xbox costs you each month.

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Otterbee

@busterfriendly@jrtexx: You have no idea what you're talking about. A cable modem is less than 5 or 6 W. A Router Gateway is on the order of about 10 or 11 W (that's with Wi-Fi) in idle mode. A STB can operate upwards of 24 W. Then there's this:


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"An Apple TVconsumes about 2 watts to stream a movie in HD, the nonprofit said. An Xbox Oneconsumes 72 watts to do the same, and a PlayStation 4 consumed 89 watts using the NRDC tests."


Please don't provide misinformation.

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BusterFriendly

@otterbee@busterfriendly@jrtexx: Okay, you just supported my point. That doesn't agree with the first sentence. I know exactly what they use because they are plugged into my UPS which tells me.

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normanislost

A lot of people don't realise how bad the power consumption is while the new consoles are on standby

and while it is optional that doesn't excuse the inefficiency

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BradBurns

Stay tuyned to GameSput.

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Justicar_1

That's why I have it on save mode, waiting a little longer for it to turn on is not going to kill me.

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BusterFriendly

@justicar_1: I assume you also ride a bus to work and don't run the A/C?

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Justicar_1

@busterfriendly@justicar_1: Interestingly enough, you are correct on those assumptions, although it's not the bus I ride is a train.

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normanislost

I turn my PS4 off completely, never have I been in so much of a rush that I've needed it left on standby etc

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CoolManMick

@normanislost: I do the same thing and for the automatic downloads, they can still download when playing another game. I mostly play single player games so works well for me. Don't even need to use standby for charging either

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Hirushu

@normanislost: agreed, the only time I put my system into standby is when I'm downloading a big game!!

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normanislost

I turned mine on Saturday for the first time since i moved for a bit of advanced warfare to find I needed a big firmware update and a 2.5gig patch for CoD

I just changed the channel for 20 ish mins while it updated (120mbps ftw)

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KiLLLeR150

Yeah, I can afford to wait those extra seconds to save energy.

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SingletreeAve

I leave my i7 gtx 970 PC powered on 24/7? Lots of cheap hydroelectric power in the area, so who cares?

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normanislost

It does indeed but not as much as when it's on standby mode

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normanislost

Phone chargers are one of the worst culprits of this

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BusterFriendly

@normanislost: Phone chargers use almost no power when plugged in. Neither does the Xbox One on standby despite the hype.

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Otterbee

I think the bigger issue with the XBO is the fact that in order to take advantage of all the "whiz bang" TV features, you now have to not only have your STB on, but also your XBO along with your TV (obviously). I've always considered this a substantial energy "hog".


I'm a strong advocate for turning devices completely off. And while the PS4 also has a standby/rest mode, it is nowhere NEAR as much an energy hog as the XBO. Sure, you may get your XBO on in an instant, but I'm ok with my PS4 taking 15 to 20 seconds (or slightly more). It's not that big of an issue for me.


Think globally, act locally. What that means is...don't consider the pennies or dollars that you might be saving yourself. Of course, that's not an issue to most of us. Think more about the cumulative savings (or lack thereof) when we act together, as a neighborhood, a state, a country, a nation...as a planet.

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BusterFriendly

@otterbee: I assume you turn off your Internet when you're not using it?

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superbuuman

Most energy efficient console Wii U ..uses only 33-34watts when gaming. :P