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By Jess McDonell | @JessMcDonell and Edmond Tran | @EdmondTran on August 20, 2015 at 12:27PM PDT
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What is the benefit of all of this in uncharted 4 ?! WE need a perfect game in everything ( story, mechanics, action, weapons, longevity, new gorgeous ideas, gameplay, variation ) I mean everything. What is this bullshit naughty dog? Are you serious you delayed the game because of this???!!!!!!!!!!
To much clothes
Yay! More focus on graphics and visuals, just like The Order and Killzone, are exactly what the gaming industry needs!
@Ravenlore_basic @bbq_R0ADK1LL But you forgot to mention that PC is almost essential for every household while consoles are not. Everyone would have a PC. It is not like those buy consoles won't have a PC at all. So you just need to add a $200 graphics card to your PC and it will do good for at least 2-3 years. Not to mention console games are usually more expensive than its digital PC version so investing in a gaming PC will actually save you more money in a long run, plus better graphics, modding and other stuffs (since I am a statistician I also use graphics card to do parallel computing). And now Nvidia cards all support streaming to a TV so you don't have to sit in front of a monitor to play games using PC.
Batman's gonna be in real trouble if he comes across someone with an anti-anti-gun gun.
@Ravenlore_basic @bbq_R0ADK1LL there are some clear down grades in the witcher 3 to the graphics I don't see it efecting things like facial animations or animations at all. the drowngrades are clear in things like lighting partical efects smoke fog fire water reflections and textutre res and the detail on things like grass and trees so yes consoles are in a way holding back PC graphics.
@Ravenlore_basic @bbq_R0ADK1LL you're avarge PC you can buy from walmart is around the same power as a PS4 or xbox one. they use old tech you can hardly call them mid grade gameing PC compared to what is on the market now. a ps4 is like a 7870 a mid to highend card 2 years ago and a Xbox one is not even a 7850 it wont even push out 1080p 30fps high end PC's are hiting well over 100 FPS on 1440p and 60 fps on 4k on just one video card now. and things are going to change even more in the next year soon mid grade video cards will do 4k my guess is around Q2 2016 we will see $250 video cards doing 4k at 60 fps with high setings or 1440p ultra past 100 fps
Just imagine the facial animations we could have if we weren't being held back by consoles.
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@bbq_R0ADK1LL actually facial animation tech has nothing to do with console vs pc. It's limited by the PC COMPUTERS and software that render the animations real time. Its not something limited by console performance. I don't remember any game leaving out facial animation to support one game platform over another. It's basically frames, resolution, view distance, post rendering that goes on the chop block.
@bbq_R0ADK1LL No one is forcing developers to prioritize or develop for consoles first.
@justicar_1 @bbq_R0ADK1LL For big AAA games, which are the ones with the budget to really go all out on the graphics, I imagine that publishers are actually forcing developers to prioritize consoles, for the sake of turning a profit on the game.
@Mogan @justicar_1 @bbq_R0ADK1LL Ahh, here we get the root of all things. PC with all its grandeur simply does not have the numbers that the consoles combine have however inferior as some people put it. Lets not forget that game developers are in the business first and foremost to make profit, when PC turns as profitable as consoles are then they will change their stance.
@justicar_1 @Mogan @bbq_R0ADK1LL
PS4 sales - 20 million units
Xbox one estimated around 15 million units
Thats about 35 million combined,
Steam just broke the concurrent user record at 9.5 million people online at any one time ( that's just users online at one time and the estimated active accounts are around 125 million and this is just steam! what about origin and GOG?) PC blows consoles out of the water for users, its just piracy is a big issue, and with Microsoft and Sony buying exclusive rights for their consoles meaning PC users lose out to a lot of titles, one thing to change this hopefully is the full release of SteamOS and source engine 2 later this year
@savate @justicar_1 @Mogan @bbq_R0ADK1LL Then I wonder why developers are not lining up to make games exclusively for PC.
@justicar_1 @savate @Mogan @bbq_R0ADK1LL
I am not denying consoles are not lucrative market because of their walled garden approach its much harder for pirates to affect this market, with PC's its much easier (not that I condone it) so publishers feel much safer with getting a return on investment on consoles compared to PC's (Destiny is the number one example to show this biggest budget game not released on PC) which is I think is a great injustice to the PC universe.
PC is still where all the money in eSports is (Dota2 looking to set new record with on course to set $15 million prize pool for next major and CSGO new league set to have $1 million prize pool), so if the future has anything to hold it will probably follow eSports with where its money and advertising along with broadcasting rights, PC will only grow stronger.
As mentioned in my last post with SteamOS, Source engine 2 and Steam Link looking to be released this year, it could mark a decline in consoles since SteamOS and Steam Link is looking to combat that very market in it self, hopefully will bring "exclusives" to the PC through Valve's SteamOS. PC has a very bright future in gaming in my opinion
@justicar_1 @savate @Mogan @bbq_R0ADK1LL I think largely because there's no platform holder on the PC to enter into co-marketing deals with (like EA did with Microsoft for Titanfall). Or to straight up own developers who'll make games just for their platform (like Naughty Dog does for Sony).
Without that, there's no reason not to maximize your available market by making a game for all three platforms. Especially when the games that ARE exclusive aren't all THAT much better looking.
@justicar_1 @bbq_R0ADK1LL Depends on what you meam by "forcing". Yes it's not the gun to the head kinda forcing :), but it's money, which can be equally powerful.
@hystavito @justicar_1 @bbq_R0ADK1LL Yes, money is what I have in mind, because as I mentioned on my other comment to Mogan, these companies are in the business mainly to make profit.
@bbq_R0ADK1LL ...... First PCs are not all equal... The most PCs out there are No where NEAR Console level!!!!!!!!!!!! let that sink in for a moment.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Games are made for the masses. Sure Gaming Rigs get upgraded visuals and crazy FPS But the game is the SAME for Mid level PCs as it is for High end Gaming PCs, EVEN if you had a Super computer it would only effect the visuals and sure everything would run on high super smooth, BUT its still the same game as the Mid range PC from 2 years ago, because many people will not upgrade their PC every year, two, or even THREE YEARS!!!!!
THUS, consoles are one floor for games to be made on PC. SO Consoles are NOT holding back PC games from greatness. IF consoles were to stopped being made Games would still be made even to the number of PCs power out there.
SKYRIM IS FOR NECKBEARDS COINVINCED THIER PC'S ARE GOD,
@harlemstruggle Im god with a neck beard...does that count?
@harlemstruggle i'm not a neck beard i have a goatee and i love skyrim and my PC is a god
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I haven't had the opportunity to play The Witcher but watching the trailers for the Wild Hunt make me want to pre-order it and play it. Type of of game where I'd spend hours in side quests and exploration. Skyrim feels like a joke compared to witcher 3
Is there a save file transfer similar to Mass Effect?
@scarred_fox Depends what you like. I doubt The Witcher 3 will be as freeform as Skyrim. The enemies not scaling with you by itself will make a big difference.
Wow, the only way the next Batman game could look any better is if it was the next Witcher game.
whoa that was serious facial details it looked so real with the eye tracking games have come so far XD
I was kinda in Awe at those facial expressions :0
One of the best animations in facial terms comes from rockstar game, L.A Noire they put so much work on it that it makes them almost real, you could tell with some focus that one character was lying trying to read their facial movements and that was some years ago, with the tech right now they could do amazing things, and the ones that i saw on the video from naughty dog seems pretty good, they really are into something, facial expression in characters help get atached to them and for so believe more in the character they are trying to build, maybe next uncharted will be set up a new standard into story driven adventure/action games, lets hope so.
@fallenstaph it's a .gif on a 3d model. is not that great. Plus, pc version was crap.