Tried the demo, good, but not buying...

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#1 Hortey
Member since 2009 • 1366 Posts

The game seems pretty good but when I invited a buddy to join into my game (I wanted him to know about the game as a possible buy because it was so much fun) we ended up on opposing teams in all but 2 of our matches.  I don't know who assumed people don't like to play online with their friends in multiplayer games, but it just cost them at least 2 sales.  I think we played for about 3 hours, in around 12 matches which we were almost always pitted against each other.

 

Great tactic for balancing a game, terrible tactic for making people want to buy a game. 

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#2 BovineDivine
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the actual ability to invite a friend, as in being organic to the game itself is not available in the demo. I understand your frustration as the same thing happened to me. But, considering the menu option of inviting a friend is 'there' but not available, and as such you have to use the console to join the same game leads me to believe that in retail you will be able to party up and remain on the same team. Of course this is just speculation but it would be pretty dumb to prevent friends from fighting together on a multiplayer game.

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#3 Hortey
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The game UI worked fine for me, it is available in between games and if there was any problem joining in my buddy might have used the xbox UI to join into me but he never let on this was the case.

 

Oh and I forgot to mention, on one occasion, it actually pulled us into different games.  We won a game... well, my team won, his team lost *eyeroll*.... and it split the 6v6 into one game of 4v4 and one of 2v2.  It literally pulled the guy I invited into another game and he had to invite me to his.  It's a demo, atm it's demo'ing how flawed the multiplayer matchmaking is in terms of being able to play with friends.  It's not an issue of what's obviously better for the game, it's an issue of what the devs thought was obviously better for the game.  ATM, they seem to belive strict game balance is higher priority than playing with your friends.

 

 

What they need, is a more intuitive system for the MP balancing too.  Lets say in an imaginary 2v2 match there was one guy with 50 points, 2 guys with 25 points, and one guy with 1 point.  The game splits you into even and odd so the next game is the 50 point guy with one of the 25 point guys, while the other 25 pointer plays with the 1 point guy.  Honestly I think it should have an algorithm where it not only splits the teams up half and half, but tries to even out the total score better, like in the example above a more balanced team would be the 50 with the 1, and the 2 25's together.  One good player with a bad player against 2 average players.  This system would be useful because it could prioritize people that joined the game together, then use the randoms to even out the scores.  Like if 2 guys in party chat play a game and win, getting first and second place by a mile, the next game they would play together again, but the other team would have 3rd place, 4th place, 5th place and so on... giving the better players some underskilled team members to balance it out.

 

It's not a hard thing to do for someone who has gone to school to use and construct game coding.  They just have to think it's high enough priority.

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#4 alphared1
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Played the demo. Freaking awesome. Obviously it does not feel like most shooters. Why should it? This is a sci-fi action game featuring robots, not some cliched 10th version of a middle-eastern war game. SO WHAT if it doesn't feel like your average shooter game? - I say GOOD! This game is fresh and a whole lot of fun.

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#5 Hortey
Member since 2009 • 1366 Posts

Did you even bother yourself to read more than the title?

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#6 Lance_Kalzas
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The game UI worked fine for me, it is available in between games and if there was any problem joining in my buddy might have used the xbox UI to join into me but he never let on this was the case.

It's not a hard thing to do for someone who has gone to school to use and construct game coding. They just have to think it's high enough priority.

Hortey

You're not able to "party up" and build your team before matchmaking starts in the demo. You are able to in the full retail release of the game. Did you ever play WFC? This was the same in the multiplayer demo for WFC and also the same for the full retail release.

It's fairly simple; you don't have access to everything the game has in the demo. This includes teaming up with friends. There's nothing missing from the game.

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#7 Hortey
Member since 2009 • 1366 Posts

Hmm, honestly that's too bad.  I dunno why developers release demo's with huge gaps in what is going to be in the final game.  I used the demo to see if I would like the final game, and it was demo'd as not having some kind of party system to I walked away from it and bought borderlands goty in preparation for the new borderlands game.

 

All I can say is, woops.  The devs should have modeled the demo around how the final purchase would have been playable as really. 

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#8 radiumbath
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The game seems pretty good but when I invited a buddy to join into my game (I wanted him to know about the game as a possible buy because it was so much fun) we ended up on opposing teams in all but 2 of our matches.  I don't know who assumed people don't like to play online with their friends in multiplayer games, but it just cost them at least 2 sales.  I think we played for about 3 hours, in around 12 matches which we were almost always pitted against each other.

 

Great tactic for balancing a game, terrible tactic for making people want to buy a game. 

Hortey

yikes! when did gamers become unable to use their common sense? the option was clearly there on the demo but "greyed out" because it was a DEMO. did you think they put it there to tease you? and now because of your lack of deductive reasoning, you've decided to pass on a marvelous game that... guess what... HAS THAT OPTION AVAILABLE. definite "woops" on your part and your part alone, lol.

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#9 davidsworld3
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You got freaking OWNED! DOUBLE KILL!

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#10 FuneralDoom
Member since 2012 • 25 Posts
I like the demo alot, more as WfC! Look out for the twister ov doom lol
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#11 SpiiiiiiiiKe
Member since 2004 • 112 Posts

Just torrent it, no need to worry about buying it.