Witches, Elf and Smile EXP table updated

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#1 Ario_ID_320577
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The Green shaded lines:

The best lvl that minimum exp input gives best exp output, (exp gain - exp input  = MAX compare to other levels)

 

The red shaded lines:

The highest lvl possbile that exp gain >= exp input

 

 

Exp are calcualted when evolving with same attributed monsters (50% bonus)

 

AcExp : accumulated exp

The number beside card name (eg, smile, 450): the amount of exp incrementally for each extra level.

 

1: slimes are rarity 1 and elf, witch are rarity 2 evoluation (unevolved) (slime wrong typing)

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2: slimes are rarity 2 and elf, witch are rarity 3 evoluation (evolved)

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U can farm witches and elfs (unevolve) on side quests 3rd seal

U can farm witches and elfs (evolved) on side quest 4th seal 

Suggest farm them on 50% energy, you basicly could level up to 60+ without spending any gem, max one lvl 70 char per day woot!!!!

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#2 animearth
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Thanks for the chart Ario. This makes finding the optimum leveling up points so much easier! :D Do you by chance have the rest of the chart? It'd be interesting to take a look at.
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#3 kptn82
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i've always wondered what's the same attribute monster? I've always used elves to evolve by other cards like salamander etc... but can't seem to get perfect (x200%) most of the time it jsut great.
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#4 Ario_ID_320577
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OMG u never know that o.O?

 

same attributes = 50% exp bonus

for example, if a fire monsters eat a fire soul stone rarity 1 , he could get 4500 exp, 

but if a light monster eat a fire soul stone, he get reguaely exp 3000(no bonus)

 

brilliant and perfect are another situation that gives more exp

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#5 kptn82
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i mean what does same attribute mean? i feed fire golem/salamander to elves but still dont get bonus like brilliant and perfect. how do you get those?
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#6 Ario_ID_320577
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Depends on ur luck only. U can try feed sacrifical card and if fail5+ times, try ur main .

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#7 highflzer51
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@ario Thanks for sharing your experimental data ;) But I never reach this numbers (of course using 50% bonus), it seems about factor 2 too high. Feeding witch, ah wait. Are you feeding evolved witch slime elv etc? ok then it may be true, I am still farming unevolved species, 3rd seal not passed yet.
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#8 Ario_ID_320577
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Its on my post says 2* smiles and 3* witches and elf

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#9 Melchi55555
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@ Ario, could you explain what 50% energy means? "Suggest farm them on 50% energy...... "
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#10 Ario_ID_320577
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In battle, 1 of the quest region will have an Bonus Icon, 50% energy bonus for some quest (12 energy cost quest need only 6 energy now)

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#11 Tehpif
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I tried figuring out the exp per card with this table, and using 4th floor drops with elf, the table does not give max effficiency per card. Here's the basis I am going on if you are farming regular 4th floor levels, using lvl 2 silver cards that drop from all non-tower 4th floor stages. It seems that some exp will be lost to conversion if every elf is put to lvl 11. In order to get to lvl 11, you need the following:

1 elf + 3 salamander/gnome + 1 elf, or 4 salamander = lvl 11 elf with +/- 40% exp bar left over. This equals 5 cards -> 14400 exp, or  2,880 exp per card average.

On the other hand, 1 elf + 2 salamander or gnome = lvl 7 elf with +/- 1% exp bar left over. This equals 3 cards -> 11100 exp, or 3,700 exp per card average. 

Now, let's expand this a bit further here. You grind on the 4th stage for a while, and your item box fills up with 15 spare cards. If you have 3 elf in those 15 ( and very likely you will), and choose those to level up to lvl 11, you get:

3 x lvl 11 elf (14,400exp) = 43.2k exp

On the other hand, if you save your extra elf every grind, so you have 5 elf with the same 15 cards, you get:

5 x lvl 7 elf (11,100exp) = 55.5k exp

 

Because common drops cannot combine to get a perfect lvl 11 elf, it would seem more economical to go for a lvl 7 elf instead on the 4th floor missions, and save the elf when you get extras that can't be matched to make more lvl 7s for the next wave of feeds. Since the limiting factor in getting your cards to max level is other cards, it might be better to get max exp per card, instead of max exp per monster. You want to take as much exp out of every card as possible, and this approach might work better.

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#12 Ario_ID_320577
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This  is what I do:

 

Farm Witches and Farm Elf.

 

First feed Elf with other lvl 2 silver cards, till about lvl 6-7, my exp gain is much more than exp input

 

Then I feed elf to witch, again exp gain >exp input

 

Yohoo, double exp gain twice. Takes a while but could be the best way

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#13 OhYeaH_207517
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I always do feed two lv 2 gnome or salamander to lv 2 elf -> elf reach level 7

Then, feed elf lv 7 and another gnome or salamander to lv 2 elf -> elf reach lv 12

Last, feed lv 12 elf to lv 2 witch -> witch become lv 12, gives 30k exp each

 

Other ways i do are 

- feed elf to level 8 -> give it to witch -> witch become lv 10, 25k exp

- feed elf to lv 10 (by two 4* elements/ 2* soulstone or one 3* soulstone) -> give it to witch -> witch go lv 11 , 2.8 k exp

So complicated, but i think it's work