Now comes with DRM instead of being DRM-free

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#1 coorta
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What once was a game that promised to be DRM-free, is now embracing Steam. A DRM-Free version will be available to early backers of the game, but will be restricted heavily due to all DLC packs and updates only being available for the steam version. The DRM-Free version will not recieve any updates nor will be able to use player made content. (Early backers of the game have basically been given the middle finger)

I don't know about anyone else, but this makes me a very sad panda. I have been looking forward to this game for a long time, however I am so very glad I did not back the game with my own money, because had I done so I would have probably been spitting up blood now. I feel sorry for those who have actually backed this game and been screwed over by Microsoft and Hairbrained Schemes LLC.

 

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/04/10/hmmm-shadowrun-wont-be-entirely-drm-free-after-all/

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#2 radcrab123
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Wth are u talking about there is no DRM At all and dont tell me there is it says on their steam page the game is drm-free

idiot

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#3 Scholar_Of_Time
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Proof or it didn't happen...

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#4 coorta
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Are you serious? You do not think that Steam is DRM? A single player game that requires you to log into a service in order to play is DRM in any corner of the world.
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#5 coorta
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http://kotaku.com/the-drm-free-version-of-shadowrun-returns-sounds-kinda-472906419 http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/13/shadowrun-returns-non-kickstarter-reward-dlc-to-require-steam/ http://harebrained-schemes.com/shadowrun/ Do you need anything else sir? Would you like me to wipe your arse for you seeing as you seem incapable of doing anything for yourself....
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http://kotaku.com/the-drm-free-version-of-shadowrun-returns-sounds-kinda-472906419 http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/13/shadowrun-returns-non-kickstarter-reward-dlc-to-require-steam/ http://harebrained-schemes.com/shadowrun/ Do you need anything else sir? Would you like me to wipe your arse for you seeing as you seem incapable of doing anything for yourself....coorta

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=3160-agcb-2555

You're an arse wipe regardless.

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#7 MooncalfReviews
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[QUOTE="coorta"]http://kotaku.com/the-drm-free-version-of-shadowrun-returns-sounds-kinda-472906419 http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/13/shadowrun-returns-non-kickstarter-reward-dlc-to-require-steam/ http://harebrained-schemes.com/shadowrun/ Do you need anything else sir? Would you like me to wipe your arse for you seeing as you seem incapable of doing anything for yourself....-Unreal-

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=3160-agcb-2555

You're an arse wipe regardless.

 

Arse wipe is still right. DRM stands for Digital Rights Management. By definition, merely being exclusive to steam, means that Steam have rights of the digital product even after it's sold, as you can't run it without steam or make backup copies, etc.

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#9 coorta
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So it has an offline mode. What is your point exactly? You do realize that it still needs steam installed and logged in for you to play your single player games right? (For your information, I was referring to someone who had not even tried to look for any information on the subject, which by the way is VERY easy to come by) So thankyou very much for insulting me. You are such a very nice person and have changed my life forever.....*sigh*

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#10 coorta
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Some people just do not seem to understand what DRM acually IS. And god forbid anyone who would classify Steam as DRM. That is apparantly heresy!!

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#12 kurboat64
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No you can play offline :)
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#13 kargion
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Steam allows you to download the game.  Not all games you get on steam require you to login to steam to play them.  Wow dude, you did like no research before posting.

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#14 Anarki84
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Steam is not DRM.

I refuse to buy games that are not on Steam, it's my game library, a place where I can find all my games. I have ditched cds/dvds a while ago and now only go for digital games.
Welcome to the future. 

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#15 coorta
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I think my point has been made.......

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#16 Caldrin
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Steam is the best thing to happen to PC gaming so I have no isseus at all with it being on there.

 

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#17 NinjaCoopa
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Just to clarify, the DRM-free version will have patches that you can download manually from the developer as they roll out.

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#18 NinjaCoopa
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DRM-free also supports user created content. Obviously since it's not tied to steam it won't be able to use those mods, but if the mod creaters release them separate from steam (like a Nexus site) then game on. The only real downfall of the DRM-free version is that as of now it will not be compatible with the upcoming Berlin campaign because of ties to microsoft which they failed to mention in the kickstarter.

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#19 LUCKENBILL56
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Agree 100%. I am sure the people who created the game don't care, but they did lose a sale. I deleted STEAM from my HD. The two games I own requiring STEAM are now deemed useless. There are enough people in this country with access to my PC. When I can't play games any longer without STEAMs help. Then I need to find a new hobby. Fortunately I have a collection of games on console and PC with no STEAM requirment. I was looking forward to playing "Shadowrun Returns." Today I view this as money saved.

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#20 stan_boyd
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you can play offline, i have been playing offline, however to download user created content you do need to log into steam to download it and there is no charge for the user created stuff either. Basically steam just makes it so pirated copies don't get all the cool stuff the people who actually are supporting these small indie devs get.
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#21 UmaSama
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Those of you who "think" Steam is no DRM should go ahead and read the Steam Subscriber Agreement.

Quote from the SSA: "The Software is licensed, not sold. Your license confers no title or ownership in the Software. To make use of the Software, you must have a Steam Account and you may be required to be running the Steam client and maintaining a connection to the Internet."

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#22 torrne667
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Who gives a shit if it is DRM or not, you can play offline so stop moaning. It just means that the developer actually stands a chance at making some money from those people who would like to try the user created missions, rather than the usual pc norm of pirating the shit out of every game. It doesnt affect the game in any way shape or form. Stop bitching, no-one is snooping on you..you aint that interesting or as important as you think you are..

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#23 pedrovay2004
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I love how everyone's argument in favor of Steam is "you can play offline." Sure, you can play offline. Until you need to install the game, REinstall the game, back the game up, etc., which all require you to be online. Steam itself isn't DRM, but Shadowrun DOES use Steam's optional DRM if you didn't back the game through Kickstarter. You have absolutely no control over what you purchase through Steam, unless the developers actually cares about the customers, like Team Meat and Super Meat Boy.

 

Steam is not DRM.

I refuse to buy games that are not on Steam, it's my game library, a place where I can find all my games. I have ditched cds/dvds a while ago and now only go for digital games.
Welcome to the future. 

Anarki84

 

I literally have no idea how to respond to this, but I'll try my best. Steam itself isn't DRM, but 99% of games on Steam DO use Valve's DRM. If Steam is required to launch a game, then it has DRM. You own nothing you buy through Steam. If Steam goes away, or if your ISP is having issues, or if Valve simply decides that games won't be available through Steam anymore, etc., you're screwed, unless you turn to cracks and piracy. If you can't put a game onto a flash drive or something similar and play it on ANY PC without EVER going online for ANY reason, then it has DRM, end of story. The vast majority of Steam games are glorified rentals.