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Forza Horizon 3 Review

  • First Released Sep 23, 2016
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  • PC
  • XONE

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Update: We've updated our review to reflect the PC version of Forza Horizon 3. Please scroll to the bottom of the story to find the updated content. - PB, 9/27/2016, 10:40 AM PDT

However sacrilegious, the ability to launch a Jaguar over a hill and into a cornfield with no risk of mechanical damage is one of the reasons why Forza Horizon 3 is such a blast. As with every well-made open world, Horizon’s lands are rife with distractions; in this semi-fictionalized setting of Australia's Pacific coast, every mile between you and your presumptive waypoint can feature dozens of detours. Before you know it, you’re up five levels, 1 million credits richer, and you still haven’t arrived at the music festival that you meant to reach an hour ago.

Developer Playground Games expands upon the previous game's regional hubs--glorified garages and showrooms to buy new cars--and turns them into their own festivals. Imagine a multi-stage music gathering like Coachella or Glastonbury, except you have to drive five miles to get to the closest tent. Sure, it’s unrealistic, but so is this series’ conceptual marriage of music and cars.

To fit new fans, your handler, Keira, advises you to expand your festivals from time to time. Doing so unlocks more driving events in a festival’s respective region. Whereas the last Forza Horizon’s main campaign path was the completion of tournaments (and is still a substantial mode this time around), there’s a new emphasis on gaining followers in order to open up more events. A single region can offer at least 50 activities by the time you’ve maxed out its potential. Combine all four regions, and you have a campaign that rivals Burnout Paradise's generous to-do list.

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Many racing games in the last decade have cleverly crafted single-player narratives around building the player’s reputation. This has been used to attract fictional rivals and grow an imaginary fan base, the latter being the crux of Forza Horizon 3's main path. It takes the reputation game to its next evolutionary step with a lesson in Branding 101. Without blatantly using the term “influencer,” some of the most effective fan-growing events are themed on positive public relations. No joke--these sections are actually called “PR Stunts.” Once you finish rolling your eyes and accept that it’s a sign of the times, you can look beyond the propagandist window dressing and simply focus on the objectives, such as stringing together stunts or executing a single vehicular feat.

Like Forza Motorsport, Forza Horizon 3’s point-to-point or circuit competitions are never bereft of split-second moments of gratification, whether it’s shaving off a tenth of a second through drafting or executing a sublime drift. Placing first is, of course, the traditional goal, but you can’t underestimate the thrill of making a clean pass against a competitor, even if it’s to avoid placing last.

Forza Horizon 3 transcends the genre’s classic reward designs by pummelling you with dopamine hits well beyond the 12-car races. It’s not unheard of to gain a level, unlock a perk, expand a festival, and obtain a new car in the span of seconds. This can occur at any time, whether you’ve just completed a championship or simply avoided traffic while jetting down the highway. This is what happens when you add a fame-based component to an already robust reward system that includes the previous games’ level progression and skill trees that recognize risky behavior.

That's one way to ruin an Audi.
That's one way to ruin an Audi.

It’s especially compelling if you can get a well-rounded car into a vineyard and spend the next 30 minutes laying waste to grape plantations with e-brake drifts to earn skill points. The skill tree has tripled in size for this Australian excursion. Along with the perks that enhance the ability to get more perks (e.g., improved skill point multipliers, longer skill point chains), you can purchase XP and earn bonuses that ultimately lead to new cars.

Forza Horizon is known for taking sensible liberties in its real-world locations. In Forza Horizon 3’s case, that means being able to drive from Surfers Paradise to Byron Bay in 90 seconds, normally a little over a one-hour drive. Real-world locales like the Kiewa Valley and the Twelve Apostles also litter this eastern region of Oz. It’s a pleasingly subdued version of Australia rather than a caricature of it. There’s no risk of hitting kangaroos, and the local hosts don’t spout slang in every line of dialogue. There’s a generous helping of lush forests and open fields set to the often-gorgeous backdrops of weather and day/night cycles. Those who miss the Out Run-inspired coasts of Italy and the French Riviera of Forza Horizon 2 also get an adequate stretch of shoreline. In short, you won’t ever run out of photo opportunities.

After Colorado and Mediterranean Europe in the first and second games respectively, the shift to Australia is fitting for a driving series that has now made room for more off-road competitions. You have to think 50 yards ahead when planning a dirt jump in a Hummer-like Lamborghini LM002. Your landing, however bumpy or misplaced, can mean the difference between maintaining the lead or fighting to escape last place. The natural unpredictability of off-road driving is a stimulating accompaniment to the more structured asphalt races.

Forza’s three-year-old Drivatar system has proven itself as a viable alternative to traditional catch-up or rubber-band AI. Supplanting generic names with those of your friends and their driving behaviors puts a spin on asynchronous multiplayer. What’s surprising about Forza Horizon 3 is the wealth of social options without your friends’ real-time presence. Familiar features like leaderboards and clubs are now joined with modes that let you curate your own shareable championships and special events using templates.

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These forms of asynchronicity are so persistent--including the option to race a friend’s Drivatar during freeroam--that it’s sometimes easy to ignore Forza Horizon’s 3’s online component, despite the return of King and Infected modes, as well as a capture-the-flag-style mode called Flag Rush. For the most part, they’re worth trying out, if only to help friends (and yourself) knock off campaign objectives. The trade-off? Races and adversarial modes can feel like a hassle at the first sign of rubber-banding or lag, which was evident during a number of pre-release online sessions.

For a game series that associates itself with ever-popular music festivals, it would be an embarrassment if there wasn't a kickass music playlist, and Forza Horizon 3 doesn’t disappoint. The return of Chvrches’, a band that stood out in Forza Horizon 2, accentuates the near-utopic vibe of this spin-off series. Some events have their own pre-chosen song to fit a given moment. It’s hard to beat listening to Richard Wagner while making an epic 500 foot leap into a gorge or hearing Night on Bald Mountain when racing to a haunted house. And thanks to Crazy Taxi, listening to the Offspring during a timed driving contest makes for a sweet trip down memory lane.

The PC version of Forza Horizon 3 benefits from being able to adjust myriad visual options; you have flexibility in optimizing things like lighting, detail, and anti-aliasing. It can be a demanding game, but even a three-year old Razer Blade laptop can run Forza Horizon 3 with performance on par with the console version. High-end graphics cards let you experience Forza Horizon 3 at speeds beyond the Xbox One version’s 30 frames per second, complemented with vibrant lighting and smoother blur effects. It’s not enough to make me regret spending my first 25 hours on Xbox One, but it’s conceivable that the rest of my treks around Playground’s vision of Australia will be exclusively on PC.

With Forza Horizon 3, Turn 10 and Playground Games affirm the series’ status as the driving game for everyone. The new emphasis on off-road options isn’t at the expense of traditional races, thanks to the sheer volume of activities. All the while, Playground Games’ calculated kitchen-sink design philosophy and rich reward system persistently tempt you to explore beyond your comfort zone, whether it’s gifting your first Ariel Nomad buggy or reminding you that stunt races can impress thousands of fans. Enhancing your own brand might feel like a strange motivation to hit the road, but pulling off sick e-drifts on a mile-long series of curves makes the PR work worthwhile.

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The Good
Gorgeous environments
Accessible driving controls
Robust reward system
Great mix of off-road and traditional races
The Bad
Minor online performance issues
Unappealing brand-building narrative
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While exploring all of Forza Horizon 3's modes, Miguel took 20 hours to complete the festival component of the campaign. He’s still crossing his fingers for a Forza Horizon set along the Pacific coast of California, Oregon, and Washington. At least that would be less cliched than setting a Horizon festival in Ibiza. Microsoft provided GameSpot with complimentary download codes for the purpose of this review.
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You know, a year ago, I would've trolled this article, with something about "Halo, Forza, Gears, repeat: the life of an Xbox gamer".

How times have changed. Good gaming, everyone!

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@bat725: It's amazing visually how far games have progressed. I used to think the Original Forza on original Xbox was a great looking game.

I still think PGR series looks damn good even on the old console.

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@bat725: Faith in Gamespot restored.

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@bat725: Well why troll well established great games?

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@rasterror: Indeed.

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@bat725: I'm ok with repeating so long as the games are great. Halo 5 was disappointing for me. But Forza Horizon is where the cream of the crop is at.

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@chiefwiggum16: Halo 5 story is just okay but it has the best multi-player of any Halo game or even every fps game. Period!

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@chiefwiggum16: Halo only got better after bungie left. Goodbye pitiful 30fps and that lunar walk feel. I wish I could get a refund for destiny.

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@simplytheebest: ran tons of games on 30-40fps ran fine, completed fine - no big deal nothing wrong with any of the frame rates

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@Itzsfo0: It can't poll the gameport any faster than the frame-rate. Therefore 60fps will always be far superior to 30fps. For FPS or serious racing sims 60fps is required. destiny feels unplayable after playing Halo5 or any other 60fps FPS. Wish I could get a refund for destiny.

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@simplytheebest: If you are serious i would play on PC where you can have 144 + fps for racing games. It is pretty incredible running at that speed for games such as Dirt Rally and Project cars.

Not knocking the consoles either as i game on all 3 platforms.

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@deviltaz35: I have a PC, I'm not posting from a gameboy. I race using the Rift on PC, talk about incredible!

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@bat725: How so? It's still the same pattern. Really, if you want unique exclusives, get either the WiiU/NX or the PS4. Otherwise, you'll find everything else on PC.

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@cboye18: Like Halo5, Read Dead Redemption, FM5&6, Forza Horizon 1 & 2, Master Chief Collection, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Reach ?????????

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@cboye18: I'm a huge Nintendo fan but when was the last time they had a good game? And Sony? Besides Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne what do they have to offer? Knack? No Man's Sky? Order 1886? Kill Zone the lawsuit editon? DriveClub? You can troll all you want but the Xbox One has had some damn great games this gen and seems to be continuing to do so. And you don't have to wait years for a dud.

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@rasterror: I want to start off by saying I have no brand allegiance, but you can't say "apart from X and Y, what else have they got?"!! Why did you just remove two good games to help back up your argument?

The same theory could be applied to any console. Again, no brand loyalty.

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@Pac1Man: I'm not removing them. I just said besides those two. There's no denying how critically acclaimed they are and that they are definitely two of the best games this console gen. All I'm saying is that outside of those game what else has there been? I'm not saying a PS4 is a bad console. It's a powerful little machine and I'm looking to upgrade mine for a Pro. But honestly, and this is just my opinion, I've been underwhelmed with what the console offers. I play my Wii U far more than it and my Xbox One and PC are my choice flavors. And with the first party games they promised and delayed that have been duds I've just lost my faith in Sony.

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@rasterror: When was the last time they h ad a real great game ? oh I dont know New Super Mario Bros U was GOTY - Luigi U, Super Mario 3D Land/World (another GOTY runner up) and that was 2012/2013 - Bayonetta 2, Super Smash Bros U, Xenoblade Chronicles X (a great spiritual successor) and a huge game bigger then the rest, and IMO deserve the top 5 GOTY contenders of 2015 alongside some of the other big ones, Super Mario Maker being the title that came out of left field...hmm, another one (oh and what about the tons of Fire Emblem and Bravely Default and Bravely Second, Dragon Quest revivals for the New 3DS XL which runs great, and Monster hunter/pokemon madness (with X&Y, Sun & Moon, etc) even IF thats not your thing, pretty undeniable the millions of titles sold (great solid games, that run well, and look good)...oh and Mario Kart 8...(another 60fps high-end title, that was worth every buck) hm....throw in some great downloadables that came "first" on the system for cheap (like Shovel Knight) funny every one of those games I listed (oh and including DK: Country Tropical Freeze which I just finished) along with titles that played better on the Nintendo console like Rayman Legends (which was a cross platform title but having that extra controller for the platforming really helped and in many ways it was meant for that system) I dont know for $180 bucks I've gotten in the past 2-3 years a good/solid 13 titles that I've enjoyed and one of the best (in recent history) JRPGS - and if you missed a handful of older titles like Zelda: Twilight Princess and/or Wind Waker - they have HD reboots (which for me I did actually miss the first go-around on GC and Wii) so both of those games were great (to begin with) but hell why not have the newest version - same with the New 3DS XL another GOTY in Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds (for 2 years now, a Zelda was a GOTY handheld contender or winner) ...I can name about 25 titles between the handheld market and console market for Nintendo that are PURE exclusives that got 9/10 "across the board" metacritic review[s]. With 8 million Pokemon X&Y's, 4 million Mario Kart 8's, 38 million Super Mario Maker downloads (in last 16 weeks) and 6 million Monster Hunter titles downloaded/purchased in the last year (and that isn't even going into the TCG market that Nintendo has /continued to do well with GameFreak and GGG games) oh and uh...theres other little gems like Splatoon, and Hyrule Warriors (cheap, easy to play, ran well - nothing special but a decent title which can be just as enjoyable) hell even Wonderful 101 and Luigi U (was a worthwhile additional download along with New Super Mario Bros U) Infact, I have YET to have a bad experience/bad game played ON the Wii U and the fact I spent LESS then $200 (including tax) nearly 3 years ago (late 2013) only a year after the Wii U's release I got the system for cheap, and after returning my Wii + a dozen or so games and 2 controller, that $180 purchase price was barely $80 bucks out of pocket...so basically I spent $80 on a console and 1 additional controller and the last 3 years I've gotten 100s n 100s of hours and 12...13....14...great high-quality/A+ rated games and (just as many with the handheld ALSO which was purchased for under $200) you cant really beat that. Both in price and terms of OVERALL content...you could argue this all you want ...and I am not a fanboy (after 30 years of gaming) I'll play any title across any platform...PC included...console...handheld you name it...I have a Xbox One S (which replaced my X360 "E" console) a Wii U - now 3 years old (the black 32gb system) which has probably been the best device (ironically despite sluggish sales in the media) every game I have played (a few per year) have been great, I have gotten use out of the system and definetly IMO made my money-wise investment worthwhile in terms of gaming purposes. So I can't complain...hell I have used the Wii U in recent years more then this ASUS desktop PC...(which is barely a year old, not cutting edge tech...but fairly high end, can run most modern games in recommended settings/high-graphical settings) decent sound system n optical drive an dedicated Nvidia graphics card (nothing nobody already doesn't have though) - but I get more use out of my New 3DS XL (cause I travel alot and like the handheld, cause there really is a ton of /backlog of games I want to play I mean literally 100s of hours 1,000s if not out of this system) and the Wii U the upcoming PS4 Pro (cause I want a PS4 and I've waited all this time, so no reason to buy the lower end model when I can just buy the best one...have the pro sitting next to the Xbox one S and Wii U all 3 up on a desk behind a Samsung 4K Flat Panel Full-Array 8500 series "KS" 49" LED HDTV. Everything being HDMI 2.0 now, and games that will 'one day' utilize High Dynamic Range . I said why not ...I was in the need for a new TV anyway after having a small 23" RCA for last few years (LOL). That Samsung 49KS8500 was a great purchase, all around highly reviewed, runner-up for 2016 TV of the year, low input/low response time (.18ms) a nice curved 4k screen (I didnt care if I bought a flat panel ultra thin profile OR a curved) but in this case, this TV looked/performed so well specifically this model I bought it, and for $999.99 + tax you can't complain (being I sell TV's and work on them for a living I knew this was the model I needed) and the price was only "mid level" compared to the higher end (larger models) like 65" and up. I didn't need a 55, 60 or 65 inch'er for my bedroom (small studio apartment) 2 bedrooms no reason to have such a large TV but I did want all the extras 4K/HDR/Smart/Touch/3D/ AND for it to perform well not just sound good out of the box with its specs (4 HDMI ports, 2 are HDMI 2.0, and USB 3.0/ with a 10nit / 1,000 HDR RGB setting / game mode doesn't give the soap opera effect either for this model...it just runs well, and has a decent price (that has actually dropped from $1,299.99 when it was first released 3 months ago) no matter where you go the TV has a 4.8/5.0 star rating (any store, any site, including CNET / BB gave it a runner up for TV of the year, in terms of "value" the Vizio "P" series 2160p TV's came in first, followed by the Samsung Quantum Dot / SUHD 4K Magnolia 8500/9000 series (thats what I've got) looks so damn good man, its one of those TV's that has a sleek design, the screen itself is paper thing, the curve, the elegance...it just looks expensive lol. Why not have a nice TV, a nice desktop PC, all the current consoles + handhelds + tablet + smartphone. So you can game anywhere, anytime, on anything. Games are expensive ? not if you have a degree and a college education, and decent job + an inheritance..a $30 pre-owned game, a $900-$1000 television (only purchased once...every what ? 8 years ? ) a $200 handheld or $300 console purchased once every 4-5 years...not a big deal, POCKET change. I am 36 yrs old, living on my own (have for years) not rich, not poor middle-class - just another average guy and I've been gaming for years...so why not ? these purchases aren't that expensive and personally...you cant take the money with you when your gone, so why not. Not like I'm leaving anyone anything lol. If you ask me a PC would cost more then any of this (besides the TV purchase which...was...sorta necessary) cause I know a high-end PC with all the best cutting-edge tech IS NOT going to be $500, $600, $700, build it yourself OR NOT its just not going to be that cheap. Easily $1,000 or more (or far more) esp when you consider monitors, trying to push 4k gaming, etc....its alot of money for me the cut-off point is a literal NUMBER like: $2,000 or more and I rarely purchase an electronic device for that much...1 television back in 2006 nearly 10 years ago (my last purchase) which was a Samsung 1080p LCD (when 1080p was first getting big, and 720p was still the current industry standard) and that was actually closer to $3 grand . never again. With tech, you wait - and prices go down...on devices, TV's, so fowarth...I mean thats common sense I know but...for me personally thats how I do everything I never day 1 any game or piece of hardware, I wait...months if not a year or more (by the time I buy a game its pre-owned and at a reduced price and it comes in a "complete" or "legendary" edition) and its cheap...dirt cheap (like $25 for Skyrim "legendary" edition) sort of deal. I do that with all games, never do micro-transactions, I rarely game on PC unless its a Blizz title, an MMO or a MOBA (my PC gaming days were always Warcraft, World of Warcraft, Diablo 1/2/3 off/on for years + Starcraft/Starcraft II, Path of Exile, Command & Conquer, Sim City 2000, those types of games...games that were sort of "built" for PC....everything else (jrpgs, western open world rpgs, most racing titles (though I rarely do racing OR sports) ...FPS (again rarely) ...and most importantly platformers (my favorite genre, and that is a genre that Nintendo still dominates in, and nintendo is full of exclusive franchises that "DO WELL" upon release both in frame-rate / review scores / sales - STILL to this day they prove time and time again with "Mario" releases and "Zelda" releases and "Pokemon" releases and "Donkey Kong" releases and so fowarth that they can still put out well-performing / exclusive high-quality games, sluggish sales aside, spec comparison aside, I still trust Nintendo far more then the rest, and that is not a fanboy statement if you haven't caught on to what I'm saying in this giant run-on sentence then /smh. Cause I can play any device...including (maybe one day) VR ...reduce prices, more IP released...increased head-set quality who knows...maybe by 2018/2019 we will have more options, and better quality software. Then maybe I will add it to my collection of gaming devices. I don't hate PC gaming not by any stretch of the imagination and no one can argue the PC has the highest quality standards, largest library of games and overall the most "options" you'd have to be a complete and total retard to not know that, but as Francis/Boogie (the youtuber) said before "PC gaming and console gaming are really two diff beasts comparisons aside what you get with PC gaming is back-up, serious gaming - console is lay back plug-n-play" back up = back down, hunched over couch...that for me is the big difference, not specs, not superiority in frame-rate[s] but the overall idea that I can plug n play a Nintendo title on my couch/bed infront of a nice big TV (or big enough anyway) at my leisure or I can take the handheld with me anywhere I want to go, PC gaming for all of its power an options....is limited in ways the other gaming machines arent (LIMITED) as in mobility and leisure not in power, PC obviously can render the best graphics, highest graphical fidelity and if you invest the time and money (for me its not so much the money, but time which is a far more valuable asset) I rather just buy a $180, $200, $300 machine...bring home 1 controller, no mod community, no streaming stuff, not worried about the optical drive (cause hell I barely use DVD's as is, much less Blu Ray MUCH LESS 4k blu-ray so I could careless as is) same with storage, I never even used 160 gigs of my 320gig X360 hard-drive, so what do I care if the PS4 Pro has a 1tb vs Xbox One S having a 2tb...none of those comparisons matter to me...cause I rarely stream, rarely play online (co-op or competitively unless its a strictly online game) and I never do mods or micro-transactions, basically I play single-player/campaign experiences, on a console, solo - beat the game close as I can get to 100% completion rate, then ONTO next title, once again rinse/repeat (buy at Gamestop for reduced price, a complete package edition, long after the games release, bring home, put into disc-tray/slide into Wii U then do the quick update for game/patch which with my 200mbps connection on Fiber-optics...is fairly quick) and boom into game...play it, beat it whether its Rise of the Tomb Raider @ 40 hours or Xenoblade Chronicles X @ 330 hours, or Super Meat Boy @ ? who knows how many hours, and 100s of deaths (LOL) - I play all of them on consoles...the Mario Karts, and Witcher 3's alike. And I never am 'let-down' by the console purchases, never once in years...MGS V: TPP, GTA V (none of those games do I play online, or do I care about mods, just the single player/base game offline) 1 - time play through, return game, make alittle $ back, buy new game, rinse n repeat over n over, never cared about graphical fidelity (sure it seems odd that I would buy a new high end TV, but why not ? needed one anyway + it cant hurt to have the best options/ and be sorta "future proof" w/ 4k/HDR gaming) even if majority of the games are NOT utilizing it at this moment, nor will they for awhile...maybe one day, 2 years from now 2018, AFTER the Scorpio's release ...PS4 PRO at that point is over a year old, and the NX is a current staple in households (can only hope) and VR gaming becomes cheaper, and PC gaming continues on with its cutting edge tech, and expensive Nvidia (who knows what by then 9 teraflop Nvidia 6GB quad-sLi 1180 M model LOL) I know I wont be buying it, or "trying" to keep up with PC tech...never have in 30 years of gaming (and I have had 1 PC after another over the years) for me PC gaming is ....MMO's and Blizzard and those cheap APRGS you download for free, and script based games on facebook...or doing this right here, typing on a website, checking email, looking at videos on youtube, etc....I browse the web (you know the way ppl used to do before their phones were their primary source of web-browsing/social media) I still use my PC for those very basic reasons, checking AOL, then youtube, then gamespot, maybe a few mins on FB - then back off the PC. I have a tablet+Samsung Galaxy Edge S6 which I can use to look up videos when Im sitting infront of my console if I need help with Xenoblade for a moment, just tap/scroll my phone and look up a video...I dont know as time goes on for me, the "classic" tower/desktop PC seems less and less useful...VR and console and handheld and tablet n smartphone n ipod this, ipad touch that, 100s of free cheap games on those devices, all the nintendo exclusives on the nintendo games, and VR games having its own "niche" someday in the market, its nice to have a PC but...I have less reason to play on the PC but BUT (its nice to have still nonetheless) I prefer plug n play OR Nintendo OR mobile first (those three first and foremost) mobile=for the mobility when I travel (which I do alot as a sales rep/repair TS) and Nintendo=for all of the classic franchise exclusives and plug n play consoles = for the obvious lazy day after work plug n play, hunched over gameplay...THEN comes PC lastly for (me) not everyone, this isn't a debate, about supreriority, its just how PC gaming ranks for me...basically "almost everything on PC I can get on other devices somehow/someway" so...graphical downgrades/upgrades aside, and spec comparisons aside and PC master race debates aside...I find it just easier to have a Galaxy phone, a new 3ds XL, and 1-2 modern consoles I spend majority of my time w/ those devices nowadays (both at work and on the road, and at home) then I do w/ a classic dust-covered ASUS desktop. I dont know I've been going further and further away from PC gaming over the years...lazy, getting older, not giving 2 shits about specs, BUT still wanting new tech...I'm sorta at a crossroads mentality-wise...like I want a nice high end TV, but I dont want the work invested...just rather buy a console, a nice audioquest HDMI 2.0- cable, and a PS4 Pro or Xbox One S, hook up, update, get the XBLive/PSN service and go play games. THe price isn't a big deal to me, and still beats paying for a $1,000 machine anyday (esp if I already got one, and I rarely use) remember I dont hate any type of gaming, if a really good game that is SOLELY for the PC comes out and I want to play...then shit I'll buy it...I just find alot of the PC only games are these artsy-fartsy "that dragon, cancer" type games...and MYST-rip offs and tons of MOBA's (which I was never big into, or corridor crawlers reminiscint of games past. You get games like the recent "RIVE" (oh wait thats also on the PS4 and runs quite well)..see thats my prob every "PC exclusive" isnt' really an exclusive..its always on at least "1" other device (that is easier for me to play on) ...I've had some really bad experiences in past years w/ blue screens, compatability issues w/ graphics cards, and sound issues, and so fowarth MORE issues w/ PC's then I ever had with consoles/handhelds/other mobile devices)....hell I have yet to take a phone or a console or a nintendo handheld TO a store and return out of anger, now PC on the other hand I've taken 4 towers/monitors to PC repair places (or had a friend who knows even more then I do) work on them...and hes nearly 40 years old and like me: been gaming along time he said to me once recently "yea...I dont keep up with PC tech anymore...thats for 19 year olds, grabbing at their mothers jacket collar like "I gotta have that GTX 1070 mommy"...nowadays I just dont care...and I love PCs, and I've always been surrounded by them...its obvious you can go further w/ a PC then any other device...but sometimes that doesn't always make it superior not when your use requires other finesse and forms of mobility...and older I get, I'd just rather buy a console...plug in, 1 update, and play....lol PC gamers are always going "have fun with your high subscription costs, additional controllers, and long updates"....uh what ? I never have long updates for 1, for 2 I never buy additional controllers (only need 1 for me upon purchase, the one that COMES with the system) and...as for subscription costs ? lol I've had Xbox Live Gold ONCE in 10 years....ONCE (1-3month subscription) cause again, streaming, online gaming, mods, ALL of that, is of no interest to me...I buy a $300 console that is ALL I am going to pay + tax, and the occasional $30 pre-owned game (or even cheaper) that is it...that is cheap, easy bring home, "1" 3 minute update, boom logging into game...thats it......so how is that a long hard arduous wait ? I'm willing to take Consoles "downgraded" visuals why ? because as long as its not GAME breaking, its fine for me, I dont care 1 bit, infact I look at games like Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto V and that was MORE then ok visually for me, frame-rate and all, a hiccup here, hiccup there, otherwise ran just fine for 140-160 hours....full single player completion, return - get $15 back (invested $25, get $15 back not too bad) then buy new pre-owned game that I've yet to play...mmm maybe DA: Inquisition on PS4...play it, beat it - onto next game (game after game, year after year) thats what we do and the consoles MORE then suffice for my needs, so thats why I'm left wondering why all the hate ? cynicism ? complaints ? bitching ? "this game wont run well, dont buy it on console, PC superior this, spec comparison that, blah blah blah blah blah" older I get the more I get used to the idea of "just ignore comments sections on sites" you will feel better, less negativity. Nintendo is fine (to end all this) runs well, good solid score games, that I enjoy...infact I'm enjoying Nintendo NOW (and have for the last few years) more then 1) the other consoles 2) PC -anything 3) VR-anything...for me its Nintendo consoles THEN Nintendo Handhelds THEN Sony/MS consoles then PC gaming...and thats just how I am, no debate or argument or response will change that...just the way it is - good day.

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@Itzsfo0: VR anything? Maybe only people who have tried REAL VR should comment on it, eh?

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@Itzsfo0: Actually the KS8500 TV is an edgelit model so if they told you it has full array local dimming then they lied sorry. Not that i would worry as you need to be pretty fussy to bother paying the premium for full array.

My 65 inch 9300D sony is only edge lit as well and still looks amazing.

I would have had to go to the 75 inch model to get full array local dimming in this series.

There is a premium model coming out in 65 inch but it's way too expensive compared to these.

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@Itzsfo0: You gave War & Peace a run for it's money.

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@Itzsfo0: omg, that is impressive...

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@Itzsfo0: The effort you people go to in order to reply to someone.

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@xenomorphalien: meh ;)

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@Itzsfo0: Paragraphs dude! That is like the game of thrones wall in text form.

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@graffitiheart: I really should watch that show people tell me it's good. I can't help thinking now i'll die of old age before i get around to seeing a single episode.

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@Itzsfo0: PC + Nintendo (when it was great) would be the best combination.

The other consoles these days are just underpowered PC's with a child proof operating system, holding games hostage in order to get attention.

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@PinchySkree: Games that otherwise wouldn't be made, or at best would be made in more limited form, due to much smaller sales projection dictating much smaller production budget.

Witcher devs have explained it nicely. This is old argument, but also false argument. Without consoles to provide mass market, gaming industry would be much more limited... only one to benefit would be smartphones and tablets, since many casual console gamers would end up there. Not to mention that average gaming PC (in wild) today isn't really any more capable than current consoles. If consoles are holding PC gaming back, then majority of PCs used for gaming today are holding it just as much.

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@Itzsfo0: Good for you. Don't let other people tell you otherwise.

I'll admit I fell into that "Nintendo is for kids" crowd, somewhere around the N64/GameCube era. It's just cool, I guess, for gamers in their late teens/early twenties, to act like they're too old to play Mario. But, once I got older still, I started playing these games again with my kids, where I developed a profound appreciation and respect for a company that has delivered brilliant game design for thirty years, now.

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@Itzsfo0: You're really expecting someone to read all of this? You might be in the running for rant of the year. Good morrow to you good sir!

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@Itzsfo0: can you please repeat that?

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@rasterror: You just cherrypicked the few games that were less impressive, yet Nintendo still have more exclusives that are well-received and in Sony' case, in development.

As for Nintendo, with the exception Star Fox Zero, Devil's Third and the typical Sonic games fiasco, all of their AAA games are exceptional. I've played most of them and there is a level of fun in their game design that I don't find anywhere else.

Sony's exclusives tend to have more variety in them. Right now they're banking mostly on remasters and multiplatform games, but they have a big amount of exclusives in the horizon compared to the Xbox.

Don't believe me? you can look up the list yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_exclusives_(eighth_generation)

It's the same thing that happened last time: Xbox 360 came with great exclusives first but couldn't hold the momentum. PS3 started slow but eventually catched up and surpassed the Xbox 360.

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@cboye18: But why brag about what you can play in 1-2 years over what you can play now? I didnt buy a PS4 to just sit and wait for the few and far between hits. I bought it to play it now. And sadly the delayed games have been pretty much duds and sadly that looks to be true with Last Guardian. I care about now and the future and not just the future.

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@rasterror: The reality of the matter is that both consoles lack either the amount or unique exclusives to stand out. The Xbox isn't doing any better either; aside from the typical and tired Forza/Halo/Gears franchises, what's new?

Sunset Overdrive? You have a similar experience with Racthet and Clank or Infamous SS on the PS4. Dead Risen 3? It's another zombie game. Ryse: son of rome is as bad as Knack and Quantum Break is as mediocre as The Order:1886. Halo 5 and Gears 4 are the only hyped games on the system, similar to Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne.

So if both system are currently lacking (which is disappointing nonetheless), you'll look upon upcoming exclusives. This part is where the Xbox brand always crumble; what's coming besides Sea of Thieves, Scalebound, Halo Wars 2 and Crackdown 3? It's good that MS is offering more variety compared to the past, but it's still not enough.

Why won't the Xbox One have a flight combat game similar to the upcoming Ace Combat 7? Or real-time turn-based games like Ni No Kuni or Valkyria Chronicles 4? How about more hack & slash games like Bloodborne, Nier: automata or Nioh?

Unless you love the Halo/Gears/Forza franchise, you don't need an Xbox One. The exclusives themselves are almost guaranteed to come to PC now and there's no really unique game found only on the Xbox One (unlike PS4 and Wii U).

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@cboye18: the only flaw in your logic is the type of customer that would rather play on pc is not likely to be in the main demo of xbox users anyways. MS wants to offer an Xbox experience at multiple levels. it's not about the console anymore, it's about the Xbox ecosystem. people who want to be part of that ecosystem and connect with friends across multiple platforms have a lot of new options. there are tons of people who like to game, but are not serious enough to want a dedicated gaming PC. those people will always buy consoles. it's easy, it's plug and play. for me it's great because I can have my xbox in one part of the house and my pc in another, I can play on the couch, or I can play at my desk. I can start playing on my couch, and for first party titles now, I can move to my desk without losing progress. I don't have to feel like I have to choose between my friends on xbox and the power of my pc. I can do both.

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@cboye18: Some of us would rather have great AAA games than unique garbage like one pice, I am bread and a bunch of walking simulators with very little gameplay.

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@DIOSNY: Not to mention, it's a lot more affordable when you only have to buy one or two titles a year.

Seriously, games are expensive!

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@cboye18: oh shutup already

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@chiefwiggum16: He's double salty because it got a 9. He will probably lose sleep over it also lmao

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I haven't really gotten into a racing game in over a decade, but it looks like it's time to break that cycle. This game looks too damn good.

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hey Miguel, if you're still around, did you get a chance to play on a PC? how does it look? any issues?

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@bigrob007: Thanks for asking. As of this morning, the PC version still isn't available for review. I expect to have a review for it later this week.

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@bigrob007: PC always has issues, that's why people prefer consoles.

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@chiefwiggum16: Not really i think it is more down to the upgrade path. I use both but i'm tiring of changing the video card to get just a bit more performance or a few extra graphical effects.

processor doesn't matter as much as i haven't changed that in 6 years.

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@deviltaz35: Any 6 year old CPU will bottleneck any midrange GPU or higher. You're robbing yourself of untapped GPU performance by keeping that CPU.

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@Rushaoz: Not really as much as you think. Above 1080p in most games the GPU handles the majority of the workload. I've spoken to plenty of people with latest processors and same card and at best they gain 5% at 1440p over what i do. Certainly not enough to warrant changing everything for that sort of gain.

Occasionally it will be higher on strategy titles that utilise the CPU more though granted . I am going to upgrade eventually. Perhaps next year. I was hoping there would be a 1080ti but it is looking less likely now as the next gen Volta cards are likely to hit in 2017 now instead of 2018.

Lately since i got my new TV i have been gaming more on console anyway.

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@chiefwiggum16: My day would have been better if you had not ever responded. not very much better, but better none the less.

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@bigrob007: LOL sorry bud, just giving opinions based on my experiences. I'm sure it runs great. Playground Games are a fantastic dev and to play FH3 running 4k at 60fps is just impossible to pass up.

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@chiefwiggum16: that response was better, but your first one added nothing to the conversation other than cynicism. I'll be trying it at both 4k 60 and 2k 100+, barring major issues.

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@bigrob007: I'd go for less resolution and max out all the settings myself. Except for motion blur and depth of field. I've always hated those.

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@chiefwiggum16: Yeah screw motion blur

the only reason I'm even gonna try 4k is because I can throw it to my 48". but yeah other than that high frame rate ftw. tomorrow can't come soon enough.

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@bigrob007: It will be more fun at 2k 100+ :)

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Xbox One, kicking ass and taking names!

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Not surprised, all signs pointed to an improvement over Horizon 2. Can't wait !!

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Does the game have damage models? not something vital, but it's nice to have.

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@Warlord_Irochi: Always have, always will, the good thing is that you can turn down the technical damage so the cars run fine. And also if you want a nice pretty car you can turn visual damge off as well.

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@Warlord_Irochi: All Forza games have damage.

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@leith219: It seems to be toned down a lot from Forza 6 from what I've seen though, visually it seems less noticeable and I donno if it impacts handling in this game or not.

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@nl_skipper: it's an option you can toggle

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@leith219: TY :)

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Glad to see the third installment hit another great score!

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Game sounds fun. Too bad the PC didn't get a demo.

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@BenjaminBanklin: You don't need a demo...trust me

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@chiefwiggum16: I think they meant so they can check how it performs on PC etc. It's never a given what is good on Xbox is not a trainwreck of bugs on PC.

At least you get two for the price of one though.

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@deviltaz35: ah gotcha

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@BenjaminBanklin: I hear its coming after launch. If you wait, you'll get to try it, and trust me, the demo is a pretty good one from what i played on the Xbox Demo.

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Are you guys ever going to fix the image viewer? It still uses 720p images (while opening them up in a new tab gives us the full size).

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The demo alone had me convinced! Normally not into racing games, but Forza Horizon is just so much fun, and the third installment seems like the best one yet.

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@lordbeefjerky: Same here. Never really been into the pure racing games. After the Forza 6 free play days and the demo for this game, I can't deny how top quality this series is though...

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Wow :)

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Forza Horizon 3 More Info

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  • First Released Sep 23, 2016
    released
    • PC
    • Xbox One
    You’re in charge of the Horizon Festival. Customize everything, hire and fire your friends, and explore Australia in over 350 of the world’s greatest cars. Make your Horizon the ultimate celebration of cars, music, and freedom of the open road. How you get there is up to you.
    8.5
    Average Rating119 Rating(s)
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    Developed by:
    PLAYGROUND
    Published by:
    Microsoft Game Studios
    Genre(s):
    Driving/Racing, Simulation
    Content is generally suitable for all ages. May contain minimal cartoon, fantasy or mild violence and/or infrequent use of mild language.
    Everyone
    Mild Lyrics, Mild Violence