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#1 zeeshanhaider
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] *sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it?call_of_duty_10

ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community?

On the other hand you still haven't list a single UE game that is on par with Crysis 2 technically. UE will always play catch-up to the CE. Deal with it.

Yes,UE will play catch up on a technical level. Doesn't matter though.Cryengine(3) still hasnt produced a game that looks better than mirrors edge. When it does,I will gladly admit that CE3 is the best.But for now,I will stick to UE. And why do you say "Deal with it"?I dont own epic games.I dont care whether UE plays catch up or not.I care for good graphics.And CE3 hasn't made anything impressive so far.

Sorry If I sound arrogant to you, it was not my intention. Again, I stand corrected CE is better than UE, that was the point of this whole discussion. And about the game like mirror's edge, Look up Titanic level created with cryengine 3.
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#2 zeeshanhaider
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[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] *sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it?parkurtommo

ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community?

On the other hand you still haven't list a single UE game that is on par with Crysis 2 technically. UE will always play catch-up to the CE. Deal with it.

"Technically", nothing. But as far as aesthetics go, there are a lot of games that look a lot more appealing, like Mirror's Edge.

Then we are on same page. CE3 can produce all the games UE can and better and with much ease. Moral of the story, CE > UE.
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#4 zeeshanhaider
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Does it really matter what method was used to achieve the graphics? As someone on SW used to say..."Technology is only a tool.The end product,the result,is what really matters." Mirrors edge does not use very advanced techniques but it looks better than crapsis 2. call_of_duty_10

You don't have a decnt PC do you...

*sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it?

ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community?

On the other hand you still haven't list a single UE game that is on par with Crysis 2 technically. UE will always play catch-up to the CE. Deal with it.

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#5 zeeshanhaider
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[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] I am sure the latest build of UE3 can do the lighting in real time....Even mass effect 3 has real time shadows.call_of_duty_10

Mirrors edge had pre-baked and pre-caclulated global illumination, indirect lighting and other things backed into textures and you think that's fair?

Cryengine 2/3 does all that in REAL TIME....

Does it really matter what method was used to achieve the graphics? As someone on SW used to say..."Technology is only a tool.The end product,the result,is what really matters." Mirrors edge does not use very advanced techniques but it looks better than crapsis 2.

It does matter what technology is used otherwise how would you compare things objectively! Art direction is the subjective, what looks good to you may not look good to me.
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#6 zeeshanhaider
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Hey crytek,your pos engine hasn't produced a game with graphics half as good as those in mirror's edge.

So stop spouting BS.

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Yeah everything rendered in realtime vs everything pre-baked. What a fair comparison.
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[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]It's sickening the amount of hate it's getting from my fellow hermits just because they made one crap game(crysis 2) out of 3 games they made in total, and the rest of the two are fantastic games. Crysis 3 is still in development let's give them a chance, it could be that they learnt their lesson after crysis 2. I just can't understand the hate for crytek from my fellow hermits. Crytek switch to multiplatform development from PC Exclusive devlopment while Epic completely ditched the PC platform and I can't understand the hermit's love for Epic games. And yes Cryengine 3 was doing all those things 3 years before and is much easier to use, speaking from my experience of the SDK.Vandalvideo
The criticism I've seen here doesn't sound like its coming from a jaded PC fanbase. It seems like legitimate concerns about Crytek's ability to market their own software and utilize their own software to the best of its abilities.

I agree about the marketing part but that doesn't mean that CryEngine3 is somehow inferior to UE4. What we see of UE4 as of now is only a tech demo and nothing else, and about using the engine to its full potential tell me any game on UE3 that looks better than Crysis 2 DX 11. We have seen the best of UE3 and it still doesn't come anywhere near of what CE3 is capabale of.

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#8 zeeshanhaider
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It's sickening the amount of hate it's getting from my fellow hermits just because they made one crap game(crysis 2) out of 3 games they made in total, and the rest of the two are fantastic games. Crysis 3 is still in development let's give them a chance, it could be that they learnt their lesson after crysis 2. I just can't understand the hate for crytek from my fellow hermits. Crytek switch to multiplatform development from PC Exclusive devlopment while Epic completely ditched the PC platform and I can't understand the hermit's love for Epic games. And yes Cryengine 3 was doing all those things 3 years before and is much easier to use, speaking from my experience of the SDK.