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@sargentd said:

the left are the ones who has normalized calling thier political opponents Nazi

Whoever does this is dumb. I don't get it, so if someone dumb does something dumb you're going to do something dumb?

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#2  Edited By Zaryia  Online
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@eoten said:

Purely specious and unsubstantiatable to claim how things would have been.

Eoten whenever you post you put it on the "very-easy" setting on this forum for me. There's almost always 5+ studies showing every single sentence you post in every science thread is dead wrong. Without fail. Hoolahoop said lockdowns, masks, and vaccines. You ignored 2 of those things, conveniently. And ofcourse you were wrong about the 1 thing you did mention.

Let me go give you data as to why each was necessary. Typically when I can pull up several studies for each claim, it isn't "unsubstantiatable". Not sure if you need a dictionary or new thesaurus,

Masks,

  • Mandatory Mask Use Could Have Saved 40,000 Lives, Study Says - Bloomberg
  • If Everyone Wore a Mask, 130,000 Lives Could Be Saved (healthline.com)
  • Mask Mandates Save Lives (imf.org)
  • Masks save lives: Here’s what you need to know - Harvard Health

Early Lockdowns,

Fact check: Studies show COVID-19 lockdowns have saved lives | Reuters

Evidence shows that lockdowns implemented to tackle the spread of COVID-19 have saved lives, contrary to claims in the New York Post - Health Feedback

The claim that lockdowns end more lives than they save is misleading (newswise.com)\

Early Australian COVID-19 lockdown saved lives: study - Xinhua | English.news.cn (xinhuanet.com)

No, Lockdowns Don’t Do More Harm Than COVID-19 (healthline.com)

I'm aware of 1 study by an economist saying it didn't save many lives, just some (so it still saved lives even in the 1 existing counter study, lol). But I'm aware of even more actual medical studies that came after it showing otherwise. I just linked some.

Vaccines

U.S. vaccination campaign prevented up to 279,000 COVID-19 deaths | YaleNews

WHO/ECDC: Nearly half a million lives saved by COVID-19 vaccination in less than a year (europa.eu)

Someone using the word "specious" and "unsubstantiable" while literally saying the Covid vaccine is a placebo and doesn't work is extreme gas-lighting. You're super wrong. You're wrong in every covid thread. You lie and studies show you lie.

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#3  Edited By Zaryia  Online
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@sargentd said:

@zaryia: I literally don't give a single shit at this point, I'll take my chances with eating well and working out. Take as many boosters as you want, that's your right.

Yeah but don't call someone a Nazi because you personally disagree with the science and facts (aka you being wrong).

It's offensive to Jewish people and even if that wasn't the case it's just dumb.

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@sargentd said:

@zaryia: I don't care about any of them, and I already got the jab but I'm not getting any boosters because people like Fauci just lie anyway. Fauci tells everyone they get vaccinated they don't have to wear masks. But then people with the "vaccine" end up still passing covid around.

Maybe you haven't kept up with the science on this (likely), but things change due to the variant mutations and it's original novelty. He didn't lie, things literally changed. His advice was still overall correct minus a few minor missteps due to an evolving situation.

I just want to be sure you hate Trump/GOP much more, since they were EXPONENTIALLY MORE WRONG in more consequential ways for far longer period of times, right? Hundreds of thousands of deaths wrong. Not "waaah waaah I have to wear a mask or waaah waaah get my booster I'm inconvenienced" wrong.

@sargentd said:

Why do you even listen to this puppet.

Because he's mostly just citing the most recent studies. Most of which are correct. Which can slightly change as the virus changes. Minor changes to your life style. Not you dying. You're nit picking. You hate him because someone on TV with 0 expertise (Tucker probably) told you to.

It's not like he's completely psycho and telling you to not get a shot for the last year. That's far from nit picking wrong. That's "oops thousands more dead because of our fictional fear" wrong. But you don't care about the actual side that was extremely wrong, because it was your political affiliation. Heh.

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I'm not getting any boosters because people like Fauci just lie anyway.

That's a dumb reason to not get a booster. Science > Tucker.

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@sargentd said:

All corporate news is gross, but out of all of them, CNN grosses me out the most

FOX is quite a bit worse IMO. Like, anti-vaxxing/masking actually has resulted in lots of Deaths.

Cuomo being a dick, not so much.

@Solaryellow said:

Suspended indefinitely.

Nice.

Now FOX needs to do this with some of their goons. Or are the cons in this thread going to play the double standards card.

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I'll say it right now, Fauci is a Nazi.

Are you an anti-vaxxer or something? This is unhinged.

Going by these standards, you must REALLY hate Trump and several conservatives if you're upset about people being wrong on Covid, because they were much more wrong with much worse consequences.

So you feel the same or worse about them.....right?

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@sargentd said:

Don't give a shit about Fauci and people can call Fauci what ever they want, Hes a talking head puppet for the state whispering sweet little nothing's in your ear. **** him

So lets offend Jews by idiotically calling him a Nazi scientist who experimented on them.....

Dumb.

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@eoten said:

High credibility on both is why most reasonable people have no faith in media bias checkers. I mean, you just got done claiming mysterious government agents were kidnapping protestors, a carefully worded statement using keywords that originated in a debunked NYT article. If you think NYT is credible, then you're not credible.

It sounds like you are saying we should all just ignore you.

Seriously though, I don't get how you can even debate or discuss something with someoene who will just say all of your sources are fake. Even direct links to medical journals or court documents.

He can say a T-Rex won the 2020 election and any counter link I give will just be stated as "fake". The discussion is then just over.

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@eoten said:

He's a disingenuous little ****. Why anyone sees him as being credible at this point is a laugh.

Your garbage opinion is noted, but this doesn't make him an evil Nazi doctor.....

Spin and deflect all you want from the actual OP. You can't defend crazy Lara.

@eoten said:

It doesn't matter. Fauci has been caught lying on several occasions, admittedly to mislead people towards a course of action he wanted them to pursue. From lying about masks, to lying about the necessary vaccine rates needed for herd immunity, to the efficacy of the vaccine. A lot of the fear and hysteria during the AIDS epidemic came after he told people you could catch AIDS just from being in contact with someone who had it. He's a disingenuous little ****. Why anyone sees him as being credible at this point is a laugh.

He's made a few mis-steps early on (as did most), but nothing majorly damaging (like being anti-vaxx or some shit). Overall he's been mostly correct and has followed the science.

The whole anti-vaxx and anti-mask bullshit from the far right has been a significantly more consequential lie. Don't know how someone on that train can call ANYONE disingenuous. Ever.

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@eoten said:
@Maroxad said:

In an attempt to bring this thread back on topic.

The goalpost moving by the TC himself demonstrates the issue with a lot of these CNN detractors.

No one thinks CNN does a good job. I remember long ago even making a thread bashing one of their science articles. For misrepresting why a material was strong.

The issue is that, these people will shout fake news at anything they disagree with.

NPR, NYT, Washington Post, hell scientific papers. All just lazy handwaving to dismiss anything they disagree with.

Hell just look at Eoten in this thread, he has been doing nothing but attacking me based on a misreading he did on one of my posts in another thread. Maybe I should have put citation marks.

And why do they keep attacking the source, rather than the actual argument they have? Most likely, because they can't. They are wrong, and they subconsciously most likely don't want to change their minds, which could mean discomfort.

I point out your hypocrisy, and your attempts to apologize for and excuse sources you trust, even though you know they're dishonest and political. WaPo just lost a MASSIVE amount of money to Nick Sandman, and the reason had a lot to do with their credibility as an organization. Yet, you still defend them, and claim people who call them fake news just don't like what they have to say. You're an apologist for misinformation.

They make mistakes and retractions, even the absolute best papers do. But they are still "Mostly Factual" factual reporting and a reliable award winning source. Until you can find an aggregate showing MBFC as incorrect on this specific matter.

They aren't as good as NPR, which you also oddly attacked ITT, but don't try to use a false equivalency and put them on the level of Breitbart or InfoWars.

To say any paper that has mad a mistake (all) is completely fake news is a trash take. By this logic you can just say anything. Like Trump won 2020 or Covid vaccine is a placebo, with 0 counter or discussion.