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@StokeMeAClipper: It sounds like you're talking about something that would only really work for watching videos. Just playing alone there would be terrible lags. Playing with others would be even worse. I kind of hate playing online for that very reason.

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@StokeMeAClipper: Yeah, afraid that ship has sailed. Many games now rely on server support, and when that goes down you're in the same boat. Whenever I go to the store and purchase a game, the disk links me to Steam or whatever service you need to download from. I haven't actually had a copy of any game in the last decade, just a pass code that says I own it. If any of these service providers go down, my access goes with it, streaming or no streaming, always online requirement, DRM, or whatever.

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@starchaser1981: I was thinking exactly the same thing about GTA. And your point about modding is well taken.

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@TrueLink: I phrased that carefully, as I'm aware of the online emulation capabilities. And my point ultimately goes beyond mere BC, as I regard it as a bone Sony throws to consumers to make up for making compatibility such a serious issue in the first place.

The truth is that all consoles could be far more useful and versatile than they are. None so far have given serious consideration to incorporating displays in their designs. Not entirely their fault, but it is something that has been needed all along, and it represents a failure on their part to address. Right now it's a bit outside the box, because of the push away from PC in favor of touchscreen based technologies like phones and tablets.

But a clamshell design and effective modding functionality could eliminate advantages that PC's currently have. In fact, that would give Playstation the advantage, since their OS is dedicated to gaming only. Potentially less glitchy.

Ah, but that's an issue for another day.

I am duly impressed with your facility to find appropriate references, though. Seriously. When I try to Google these things, it's kind of a crapshoot. Respect.

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@TrueLink: Not for me in Opera it doesn't. Replies are showing beneath. It's probably not Opera, though. I think you both might need to change your 'sort by' options.

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@TrueLink:

@TrueLink:I had the 80GB model and several PS2 games, none of which worked with the new console. When I complained about compatibility issues, no mention was made of any existing compatibility systems at all. Instead I was informed that enabling backward compatibility required hardware that would make the console too bulky.

In light of everything I've learned since as well as here, it suggests to me 2 things:

1) My system was already obsolete when I bought it, and the technician I spoke to thought I had the slimmer design. Hard to imagine he might not have known the bulkier models existed, though, so I think he was being deliberately circumspect about the info he shared with me. This fits in with established sales guidelines that instruct representatives to do things like avoid using the word "no" at all costs.

2)In the 2007 article, "mostly compatible" actually means what was said in the first article. Limited, but possibly more than half. None of the games I specifically bought to play worked, but now I do recall getting a small box of games from my sister, and a few of them did work. This was a year or two later, and the games that did work didn't appeal to me. So it didn't really make an impression at the time.

Thanks for clearing that up.

But since the PS4 actually isn't directly backwards compatible with previous games, my point still stands.

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@TrueLink: I actually had the early, bulkier PS3 and had to buy a late model PS2 because the thing woudn't play PS2 games, so that's just not true. Had there been a compatible model out there, I would have known, because I checked it out before deciding to get both systems. So I'm pretty sure you're wrong.

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@TrueLink: I doubt that. One of the main reasons stated for the lack of backwards compatibility when the PS3 was released was that it would make the new console too bulky including the hardware to enable that. That means the old games would have to be rewritten to work with newer playstations like the PS3 and the PS4. And indeed, some games did get this treatment. God of War, for one.

By releasing the games as originally released to run on systems following original designs, they sidestep all of those headaches. Like reprinting old books, it saves on production costs. It also discourages players from demanding versions for PC and alternate consoles. It's definitely the easy road for them.

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Sounds to me like they just want to repackage old games and old tech to make money without real effort. Otherwise why a separate console? Why not make the games run on the PS4?

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Nice list. Not sure how I'm going to feel about the Crew 2. I watched a video of someone playing from the start, and it wasn't long before all the commercial crap started to annoy me pretty badly. And it took over 40 minutes before he was free to roam! But on the plus side, now I've seen it, I can skip past it. The first game was awesome, and I'm looking forward to learning my way around the U.S. of A. all over again!

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