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#1 sugarboy79
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I LOVED the origianl socom... wasnt to big a fan of its follow ups was mostly interested in my PC by that time.

But never had a problem playing socom.

Coyo7e


Ha, funny that we are debating back and forth about a console when we are both PC gamers.
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There's nothing wrong with making something better, whether its graphical capabilities, so why you would turn your nose up at that makes no sense. What you should be doing is explaining how different (wiimote) is BETTER instead of putting the traditional control schemes down just because its not the same as the Wiis control scheme. DS is not making a new market for itself because that market is called the handheld market, a market forever dominated by Nintendo.

Like I said before, it doesn't matter if your console can pop popcorn and play video games at the same time, the GAMES will determine the console success, not the hardware. And to me, it seems like alot of people are saying that they buy the Wii because of the hardware. Most gamers find fun in playing the GAME, not CONTROLLER.
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How did I turn my nose up when I said that, if I could, I would buy all of them.  The DS did indeed make its own market.  When I see 50 and 60 year olds playing them, people who have never played games in their life, I see the evidence of it.  My friend's mother, in her 60s, bought one out of interest in the brain training games, and has since taking an interest in puzzle games, Mariokart, and strategy games.  If that is not making a new market, what is?

I don't hink I've ever intimated any system is better thatn the others.  Frankly, I don't even care.  I'll play what I play and I couldn't care less what you spend your time doing.  However, I don't think that the Wii sales will drop like a brick, as people are suggesting, and I don't think that the Wii is somehow detrimental to gaming at large.

The only arguement that I would make for the Wii's controller is that waving your hands around to control something is much more intutive to people than handling 20-some odd buttons.  What is the first thing people who don't play games do when they play them?  They wave the controller around.  I have no doubt you did the same thing, I know I did way back when.
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#3 sugarboy79
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Numbers that reflect the potential direction of gaming the future. Shame becouse clapping to loudly for where nintendo is taking gaming, that, if they were to have it there way, would leave gamers mourning the loss of true technical innovation in gaming.

Coyo7e


I doubt a strong showing by the Wii is going to cause the apocalyptic scenario that you are envisioning.  Earlier you said that the Wii is not comparable to the PC, PS3, and 360.  Although I disagree with the context in which you put it, I do agree with the sentiment.  The Wii is making it's own market.  The DS did the same thing.  I know people in their 60s who own DS's.  Does that mean that from here to fore all games are going to be brain training games?  I don't think so.

If I had infinite money and time I would buy all of these systems.  All of them have, or will have, games that I would like to play.

As far as technical innovation, what do the 360 and PS3 offer?  Better graphics?  We all know that these will be outpaced by the PC in a year or so, if not sooner.  I see nothing technically innovative about them.
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#4 sugarboy79
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you should be ashamed....

Coyo7e


I love this!

Anyway, I thought the discussion here was about sales not whether the Wii is hardcore enough.  All of the things that you are positing seem to me to be reasons why the Wii will continue to sell strongly. 

Yes, I do consider myself a gamer but seriously, shame?  For what?  I like what I like, and this discussion doesn't even have anything to do with what I like.  We are talking numbers, no?
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#5 sugarboy79
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you can get away with that crap on the DS not for a home console. Iam sorry but I own a wii, I like LoZ TP... wii sports boxing is a weekly event over a few bears with a friend and throw some golf and bowling in there as well.

But its not a console made for gamers, its a console made for everyone, and as someone reading SW threads you should be ashamed to consider it in the same league as a PC, ps3, or 360.

My fondest wish is that in a year there is a really good race between the 360 and ps3 ( I dont own a ps3 yet and may never) and the lemmings and cows will stop fighing amongst each other and turn thier hatred to where its deserved... The wii, that brings a childish take on gaming and doesnt deserve the respect its getting.

Coyo7e


First, I'll never feel shame about anything that has to do with gaming.  That's a laughably absurd notion.

With regards to the childishness of the Wii, I can say that of all the people I know, most of whom are in their late 20s and 30s, the only system any of them are expressing any interest in is the Wii.  Sure, that's anecdotal, but frankly I don't ever see any other type of evidence offered up here anyway.  Most of those people don't even play games, but they are interested in the Wii.

You are making my argument for me, frankly.  'Gamers' are a much smaller demographic then 'everyone', right?

Accessibility will always take the cake when it comes to technology.
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#6 sugarboy79
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People made all of the same derisive arguments about the DS during its first year and we know how that turned out.  I don't really care who 'wins the console war'.  I don't choose to make the products of multibillion dollar, transnational corporations a part of my identity.  However, I do love innovative technology (or innovative anything, really) and the only company who is producing it for gaming is Nintendo.  Regarding that as a gimmick or fad is a tired argument.  It wasn't true for the DS and I seriously doubt it will be so for the Wii.
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#7 sugarboy79
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This is obviously just a typo.  If a game this hyped and significant (with regards to DX10) was going to be on any other platform than PC, people would know.