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#1 slateman_basic
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@mattbbpl said:
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He's never owned a business. He's never been responsible for a payroll. His net worth is minuscule for a 74 year old man who is supposed to be a professional.

Aren't those aspects that would make him more in touch with the common man?

No, because the average person actually holds a job and wants to make money.

None of those preclude him actually doing so.

Apparently they do because he never really has. His life is basically talking about social issues and getting elected. He was a poor carpenter. A poor writer. He lived off unemployment. And he never wanted to do any of these things. All he's ever wanted to do is talk about social issues.

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Clinton didn't barely win. She won by a decent margin. Over 5%. And that with Sanders coming on strong after New Hampshire.

That margin is even more embarrassing for Sanders knowing that he outspent Clinton 2 to 1 in the state and still lost by 5 percentage points.

So much for Sanders and his grass roots campaign. The guy brings nothing but good feelings.

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@mattbbpl said:
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He's never owned a business. He's never been responsible for a payroll. His net worth is minuscule for a 74 year old man who is supposed to be a professional.

Aren't those aspects that would make him more in touch with the common man?

No, because the average person actually holds a job and wants to make money.

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What programs do you think help the less privileged?

I've never said that white people were rich. I've simply said that they get a better starting point than minorities.

While you did not say the word lazy, you said that taking an immigrant from Africa shows that they work their butt off, thus implying that blacks in the US are lazy.

And the vast majority of immigrants to the US end up taking low paying jobs, resulting in living a poor life. Working hard does not result in being rich or even middle class.

Student grants and student loans. Affirmative action in the case of minorities. Reduced insurance costs. Welfare, food stamps, housing for the poor.

If they have the same economic outlook as minorities how do they get a better start?

I said culture which you didn't address. And FYI if I'm comparing the culture of two different countries of the same race it seems stupid to call it racist. As I said if you have a prophecy that x happens then it will...self fulfilling. If you move forward with positive ideas then positive results happen.

Vast majority? You mean all the doctors and professional people that get visas?

Student loans are programs for the less privileged? That's insanely laughable. Your "program" is resulting in universities getting richer and people getting less of an education, struggling to get in to the workforce, and young people starting off tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Great plan. It's worked wonders the last twenty years.

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Bernie Sanders simply pulls on heartstrings. He has no logic and no understanding of the actual world. He's never owned a business. He's never been responsible for a payroll. His net worth is minuscule for a 74 year old man who is supposed to be a professional. And in his 25 year career in the Senate, he has managed to pass 3 bills.

In all honesty, he is completely out of touch with the vast majority of people and how they live their lives. He has survived in the world of the social worker and academia. And while some of his positions are laudable and even noble, they are also foolishly naive. If ha hadn't gained public office, he would have been that kookly old hippie that hangs out at the library and wears flip flops year round.

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It has nothing to do with work ethic. It has everything to do with the society in which they are born to and the complete lack of opportunities. Just because some have overcome it does not mean that it still does not exist. In fact, it simply highlights the disparity. Unless you are implying that an entire race of people is simply lazy and does not take advantage of "programs." Because that is the definition of racism.

There are many programs designed to help the less privileged though. There are many white people that have the same problems. Not all white people are rich which seems to be what you think. I never mentioned the word lazy but there is a self fulfilling prophecy within cultures that drift along just because they want to believe it is what it. I also mentioned successful minorities that work toward something so stop playing the victim by deliberately misreading comments.

I get the racist vibe from your posts rather clearly.

What programs do you think help the less privileged?

I've never said that white people were rich. I've simply said that they get a better starting point than minorities.

While you did not say the word lazy, you said that taking an immigrant from Africa shows that they work their butt off, thus implying that blacks in the US are lazy.

And the vast majority of immigrants to the US end up taking low paying jobs, resulting in living a poor life. Working hard does not result in being rich or even middle class.

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That's a rather simplistic definition of racism. Nonetheless economic factors and culture have much to do with advantages rather than skin color. You do a disservice to minorities that are successful with those comments. And constantly blaming white people for problems is racist.

And those of minority skin colors are particularly disadvantaged economically and socially. Largely because they are attempting to overcome centuries of institutional racism and economic impoverishment.

And as I said you can't take culture out of that. What do you think about making babies when you are young and in no way to care for them? Or seeing how many fathers aren't in their children's lives? That IS a problem. Take a person from the same race from Africa and compare them to Americans? Do you see the disparity? The immigrants work their butt off. As do those Americans that take advantage of programs and become professionals. If NO one from that race could be successful I'd be more prone to listen to your argument. But at some point we have to look at culture and not race.

I have nothing but respect for those who put in the work and they deserve the reward. But doing nothing and complaining deserves no respect from anyone.

It has nothing to do with work ethic. It has everything to do with the society in which they are born to and the complete lack of opportunities. Just because some have overcome it does not mean that it still does not exist. In fact, it simply highlights the disparity. Unless you are implying that an entire race of people is simply lazy and does not take advantage of "programs." Because that is the definition of racism.

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@ShadowsDemonTell me, how are white people oppressed in the United States, currently?

They're the only ones who can't be outright racist and get away with it.

Which minority group is being "outright racist" and getting away with it? Alerting young people to the disparity in social equality due to skin color and the history of skin color is not racist. Racism would be passing a law that says white people have to use separate facilities in public places.

If you want to counter racism in society, you have to be willing to have honest conversations about race and it's role in society.

That's a rather simplistic definition of racism. Nonetheless economic factors and culture have much to do with advantages rather than skin color. You do a disservice to minorities that are successful with those comments. And constantly blaming white people for problems is racist.

And those of minority skin colors are particularly disadvantaged economically and socially. Largely because they are attempting to overcome centuries of institutional racism and economic impoverishment.

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The Wire. It's the king of police/crime dramas. It's a lot better than The Sopranos.

This. Sopranos was weak. The Wire is amazing.

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Clinton didn't barely win. She won by a decent margin. Over 5%. And that with Sanders coming on strong after New Hampshire.