@FireVixen @nigelholden @musalala Fundamentally, there is no difference between someone that plays a hardcore mmo for 12 straight hours than another person that plays Cooking Mama for 12 straight hours. But I dunno, I guess it's the intangibles that seperate us.

@FireVixen @musalala Just because someone shove a gameboy into their kids' hands to shut them up, doesn't mean the kids are gamers. Alot of people that play mobile games view it as a way to pass time at work, or at the bus stop. When they have free time at home, they would probably watch a movie, read a book, gaming is not their hobby.

@FireVixen Depends on how you define "gamer," Of all my female friends, only 2 regularly play games on consoles and pc, others play Candy Crush. Don't get me wrong, there are female gamers out there and I've raided with many of them. But I think the figure you linked is kind of skewed.

@theconniption @xsonicchaos

I totally agree that women have been underrepresented in many media outlets, I just happen to disagree that TLoU is one of them. Just because we don't get to control a female character the majority of the time, doesn't mean that women in this game is being misrepresented.

Seriously, I'm not the type that troll forums and boards so I can start flame wars against opinions that I deem inaccurate. In fact, I've been a member for maybe 8-9 years and tonight is the first time I ever posted anything. This is how strongly I feel on this subject.

I've read many of Carolyn's articles, she is not a true feminist. She is misandrist that overanalyze everything, and will shove "sexism" down your throat every chance she gets.

@theconniption @xsonicchaos

Again with these backhanded compliment:

"The Last of Us is incredible step for the industry but that doesn't mean that it's as far as we can go."

That's exactly what Carolyn is doing without using the word "sexist."

@theconniption @xsonicchaos

Just go read her review on Persona 4.

Let's just say Carolyn has a very misguided sense of sexism and feminism, and I'm being very generous here.

@theconniption @shingui5 @nknknnk

I never disagreed that sexism existed in other games. Your initial point; was that Carolyn isn't arguing that TLoU is sexist. And I merely disagree because I don't think this game is sexist in anyway. She argues that women are only plot devices that pushes the story onward, same can be said about all the men Joel killed because they stand between him and the next checkpoint, and the siblings they met throughout their heartbreaking journey.

I never ever post, ever. Only this idiotic article motivated me to do so.

"The Last of Us reinforces the notion that stories about men are more valuable and meaningful than stories about women, and that women are often important not so much for being fully-fledged people in their own right, but for what they--and often, what their deaths--mean to the men of the world."

I dunno man, she never said it outright that it's sexist, but the subtext is pretty clear.

@Search_for_Vali Out of context*