And SPD - Thats odd... Considering I own 74 of those "horrible" XBLA games. hmm I guess I just enjoy burning money... (Time to buy a PS3?)
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Lookin forward to seeing what this is about :) And a little note to the people going around screaming about HD-DVD failing, once again, its simply because they follow "Sony" style thinking, where Sony put everything on the line for BluRay because they NEEDED it to be adopted for their gamble to pay off, where with Microsoft not having a vested interest in HD-DVD like Sony did with BluRay, they simply didnt really care if it lived or died, they were only offering the choice to their consumers. Frankly, I am surprised that Sony guys are at it again trying to rub something so silly and non-important to gaming in "360 gamers" faces. Its kinda like going and making fun of all GM cars because they were to use a tire that went bad in the Indy 500 or something. Just because they supported a medium and it went under, doesnt mean it affects them in the least. Further, you would also think Sony fans wouldnt attack others based on product problems, what with exploding batteries, failing cameras/mp3 players/televisions/PS3 overheats/etc. etc., they have their own fair share of problems to worry about, not to mention poor a poor image in the majority of at least US consumers. I suggest wising up, and if you want to fight about the next unnecessary media format, do it where someone cares - right now you are simply making yourself appear rather shallow and silly doing it in an XNA game dev article where it has absolutely NOTHING to do with gaming.
tryfe brings up a great point, just not the one he wanted to make. Microsoft didnt have a vested interest in HD-DVD like Sony did with BluRay, they simply supported it. Why would that be the end of "M$" and their "faulty hardware"? People have no idea what they are talking about, the only thing ending is future support for HD-DVD. That doesnt mean that my 360 will no longer have the largest game library, the most exclusives, and better overall ratings. It will continue to have the best services, features, and support of the two. And my movies will still look just as good as they did before the announcement. The only thing different is now I need to grab some dual format players and hopefully Microsoft will now release a BluRay addon for the 360, making it also a dual format system. And no, its been discussed before. There comes a point where storage grows faster than is necessary, as most of what you named SchoollyB doesnt require much space at all on a disc. What does, are the assets, namely textures and such. And even then, those are becoming more and more compressable as well. So larger discs do NOT = better, larger, more fun games. Better developers and more creative use of the already available storage mediums DO make better, larger, more fun games however. fox - There is a difference between Sony making a gamble and building IN a drive, and Microsoft offering a choice and allowing an addon that doesnt affect gaming performance in the least. But whatever, let the Sony fans run around trying to flame and incite system wars, when this has nothing to do with gaming unlike it would have if tables were turned and BluRay lost, that would have affected Sony in a MUCH larger way. Regardless, fact remains neither were necessary in the first place as I described in a recent post, processing speeds do NOT evolve at the same pace as storage tech. As such, you dont need a new medium every generation, there comes a point (Like now) where you simply dont need that much space. Further, next gen could go either way - as more processing speed will negate the need for a further increase in storage space, as while the speeds will allow more detailed and larger worlds, the space required for storing said assets will shrink, while the speeds also allow faster and better compression tech. I personally think digital delivery/ondemand is the future.
We arent talking about games, we are talking about movies. And the difference between storage techs on gaming and its necessity, is a bit different of a comparison. I mean, I get what you are saying, but I also get that processing power increases at a different rate than storage. As such, we are growing storage space FAR faster than processing speeds. Which then leads to massive amounts of storage with no real uses. Gaming is a great example, as it simply wasnt needed, not yet, if ever. Systems wont be fast enough to use that much storage space, and as they grow faster, storage space requirments will actually start to decrease based on the fact that compression becomes faster and more efficient as a result, and requires less and less overhead on increasingly fast machines. The end result, is the lack of need for more formats over time and instead more creative use of already given space.
decoy - False. Fact = HD-DVD lost because of the domino effect started by Warner, who moved to BluRay AFTER HD-DVD had been making consistent progress in closing the gap. The consumers were begining to choose HD-DVD, and the industry took away the choice. Fact = Microsoft offers/ed a choice in HD-movie formats, if you wanted one at all. Building it in would obviously not have been a smart move, as HD-DVD could have still lost, regardless of it being in the 360 - and that would have put them in a position they are not currently in because of said choice. I prefer the way they did it, and so next, I will get the BluRay addon for further HD movie on disc based purchases, however I have been steadily moving towards On-Demand based entertainment, and as such dont know if either format will really do well in the end anyways. kobe - Fyi, 1. Just because Sony uses it for games doesnt mean Microsoft would have to, 2. Just because Sony helps make it doesnt mean Microsoft cant license the tech, 3. Just because they are competitors in the gaming sector doesnt mean that Sony would (or could) turn Microsoft away in the movie sector of the business, money is there to be made and thats what both companies want. Take a look at the latest people to move to XBLive on demand SD/HD movies - nothing short of a partly owned Sony studio... So much for impossible, isnt it? And lastly, 4. Sorry, I guess I missed the new bulletin where external drives cant run games but only movies :\ (ie. USB transfers data, not moving pictures, games and HD movies are both data and as such games and movies COULD in fact run from an external drive just as they do with PCs, however, that wont happen as Microsoft wouldnt divide the 360 market and confuse with games on different formats/etc.)
Poor analogy kobe. Nice way at attributing something as expected instead of dumb luck. And of course my argument doesnt make sense to you, that is like screaming mexican at a frenchman and expecting him to understand. ::shakes head:: You go back to trying to incite flame wars on a MICROSOFT, HD-DVD post about how superior SONY, BLURAY products are. And while you are at it, continue to try to combine something about MEDIA with flaming a console and its owners. And to finish it up, you insult me and compare it to the bloated, overpriced Iphone? I sense a trend, Sony, Apple, hmm... Let me guess, Pepsi? :\ --- For games, I go where the games are, and that isnt the PS3. End of discussion. This is supposed to be about HD-DVD, not PS3 vs 360, so lets get back on topic shall we? If you must insist on insulting me further, do it in PM. And if you want to try to fight about consoles, goto the console wars.
Kobe - Of course they kept PS2 owners happy while the PS3 was out... Do you think they stood on street corners pitching Bravias to keep themselves afloat during the PS3s near crisis situation? No, they didnt have the sales with the PS3 to keep their gaming division afloat, so they had to rely on the PS2 to carry it. Funny part is, that then backfired and made it harder to get people to adopt the PS3 when the PS2 was still alive and kicking strong - so what did they do? Oh thats right, what Sony does best. They are now trying to kill the PS2 slowly to revive the PS3, and to an extent it is working. Except they are also loosing longterm share at the expense of short term sales... Each PS3 purchaser they gain, they are turning away another because of their poor marketing for the PS3 including removing backwards compat. simply to suit their own agenda (Ie. Sell less PS2s/PS2 Games, sell more PS3 games/PS3s). I love how the Sony fans seem to think the roses all smell better on their side of the fence. Rah Sony! Take away our choices to benefit your own goals! Rah! :\ Next thing you know - we will be in a market where you go through a drive through and they give you want they want to give you, not what you ask for, because "its better for you".
Kamui - Yes, why dont people understand that its Microsoft ripping people off by offering a choice. Yeah, I just cant believe Microsoft didnt force HD-DVD down each and every one of our throats as a built in format, like Sony did (and how they are winning with BluRay)... Funny how that works isnt it? The only way Sony is winning with BluRay is because they took the choice AWAY from consumers and forced it on them - and the movie industry followed suit. And further, we should also thank Sony for "enlightening" us as to why BluRay is important to games. I mean, think of where gaming would be without it! ..... Oh wait, the 360 still has the larger library of better games and exclusives - BluRay didnt help with the games, and full HD movies fit on dual layer DVDs... Thats right, There wasnt a need in either. I wish people would think before posting.