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@sircyrus : Actually in the Bible Jesus makes more references to hell than he does to heaven.(Which he is saying both as.) He notes a ''lake of fire'' which if I am correct isn't a picture of happiness.He also notes ''My Father's Kingdom'' in reference to a completely different place.Why then would the ''drunkards and murderers'' go to the better part of ghana? When it comes down to the gritty of it I don't think it hardly even matters that there is an exact name for it (because I seriously doubt there is a sign to the underworld that says ''welcome to hell'' :P ) but all these descriptions match up to the same type of place.

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@matthall7 : But while we are on the subject I would like to express to you my opinion about hell.It doesn't make God evil or cruel to send people to hell...in fact He doesn't send them there.Really people choose to go to hell but God being the loving father He is offers people an opt out.Here is a question to pose...suppose you are a jew that was mercilessly slain by Hitler in the holocaust you then go to heaven (a place that is supposed to be the place of endless joy) and there to greet you soon after is Hitler..the very man that has slain you and everyone you love and has done so to millions and millions of others .So how then do the likes of Hitler,Sadamm Hussain (pardon the miss-spelling),and some of the most notorious killers in history that are themselves full of hatred,anger,and fury and the very essence of misery themselves go into a place that is supposed to be full of happiness and joy? It contradicts personalities.Just like a loving parent has to punish their children God has to punish sin...otherwise why should I care if I stole my neighbor's car or killed them since there are no consequences in the end? Why should I care about or even love Jesus or God if I will get into heaven in the end anyways? So it is ultimately people's choices whether they go to hell or not by what they choose to except.

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@matthall7 : lol,that is the most answer in a question I have ever seen :P So you do believe in the God mentioned in the Bible then? Based on what you said ( ''A God whose every free will act is motivated by love of all of his children and a God who has absolutely no place for anger or wrath within his infinitely perfect presence?'') are you then implying that there is no hell (or at least no hell for humans to be sent to?) because that is an entirely different but interesting debate.In regards to your opinion on the Bible,I believe that there are either 2 options for (accurate) opinions on the Bible...it is either a. completely true and what it says it is or b.a hardly worth-while fictional novel that is full of lies and deceit by liars and lunatics. Because think about this..many of these authors claim that it is divinely inspired by God...so if it isn't than these are just liars and why should we believe anything in the Bible at all? Why should we believe that God is loving and caring since it is in a book with other lies shouldn't that also make it a lie?

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@matthall7 : Well actually to be quite honest this is the first time you have directly addressed me (that I know of) but I will be happy to discuss it with you.Firs then I need a couple more facts about your opinion on the topic.Mainly..do you believe in the Christian God or an unknown being we have yet to discover?

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@mount_judo : When you breed barley to get make it stronger or even natural selection does so it is indeed still barley..it hasn't become a new type of plant..this is only variation within the barley that has already been permitted not the barley changing into another organism.

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@sircyrus: Sorry for the misunderstanding,I meant that ever since ancient egypt cats (and later dogs) were highly revered for religious purposes and while the religious context was dropped the revere for them carried on.The only reason cats and dogs are important to us is that they have been companions since ancient egypt..if opossums either a.didn't carry rabies or b.were pets for centuries or centuries then we would be just as phased by an opossum dead on the road.There are thousands and thousands of species (either plants or animals) today,with all those species even if changes did happen every thousand years we should have seen at least one with all the species we observe on a daily basis. There are several problems with the collumns in support of evolution.First is that there isn't an exact line between layers,while they are a tiny bit distinct certainly not distinct enough to be various floods over centuries or longer.Also comes in the cuttlefish (a creature closely related to squid and octopi) which,akin to its relatives,shoots ink when it feels in danger or harm.So if there had instead been a worldwide (rapid) flood then it wouldn't have had enough time to let ink out,but it could've easily done so in floods over time (MUCH slower than the speed the Biblical flood would be going).

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@sircyrus : The only reason cats and dogs are regarded highly today is that they have been since ancient times (when considered gods or godly).So far almost everything we see (in action) today contradicts evolution..take mutation...we only see mutation in only 1 or 2 passed down generations,not consistently handed down and especially not so to develop countless new species,and also is that there hasn't been one mutation that modern civilization has charted that is even slightly good and especially not good enough to help adapt to the environment.And while I am on that subject...if we were to take (ie) polar bears in a controlled environment that is getting mildly warmer..from modern-day observation we can hypothesize (and correctly so imo) that if the current generation is even able and lucky enough to survive the growing heat with their bodies designed for cool weather that they will die out unless there is a genetic change so large that it makes the offspring of a polar bear no longer a polar bear which we all know is impossible.So if evolution is brought about by changes in the environment then it is highly unlikely that if a change is dramatic and impacting enough that dna has to practically re-code itself for evolution to take place then it is extremely unlikely that whichever species it might be would be able to survive in its original form long enough to reproduce that mutation (for the better which again is unlikely) for generations to come.

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@sircyrus : But yet there is still a difference.There has always been a notable difference in perspective between human beings and other animals more than just being more evolved.Why would it be wrong or even matter right now if I were to walk outside and put a bullet in my neighbor's head? After all he is just an animal and that would be the same as killing a cockroach right? Or why should you be sad or angry if a mountain lion (it might be unlikely but go with me) were to break into your friends house,kill them,and eat them? It is just the circle of life and food chain after all..you don't care when it eats a deer so why should you care now? Why do we even have rights at all? Our only slightly less-evolved relatives have no rights.Why should a wife even get angry at her husband when he cheats on her? Most animals do have multiple partners after all.Why do we even deserve to live if we are just a couple steps up the evolutionary ladder than everything else?

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@calvinsora : You would say it is safe to assume that all species have evolved over the past million years because their surroundings have changed frequently right? But then there are fossils like the Okapi that if the modern ''evolution'' dating is correct are several million years old yet there are no significant changes at all.

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@Doubleb14 : And you know that many here would tear you apart for even being slightly incorrect :P No problem,glad I could help! :D