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@UNCStriker88 LOL are you joking? If you put just about ANY piece of electronics equipment in a closed environment with NO ventilation it's going to eventually overheat and fail. You could make a Home Theater Receiver fail using the same test...or even a BR/DVD player and that's a piece of equipment which produces far less heat than a game console. If I put my home built HTPC in a closed case it would overheat and fail.

Not to mention you missed the ENTIRE POINT of the article, which was to point out that the PS4 essentially "tells" you that it's about to overheat and shuts itself off as a *safety precaution*. If you had actually read the article you'd see that once the PS4 cooled off, it turned on and operated with no problem. The PS4 didn't "overheat and die". It overheated because it was put in a case with no airflow...and the safety feature kicked in and turned it off so it wouldn't melt.

In short, are you retarded?

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@spenceslivn Apples to oranges comparison = irrelevant argument. My point stands as fact, not opinion.

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@gamemaven I've spend significant time with both consoles. I'm not currently a coder, but I do work in the industry and understand the potential of both consoles intimately. The differences between the two consoles are nearly identical to the difference between the 7850 and 7770, which is roughly 50% in shader power/memory bandwidth. This is a fact. Launch titles will not show much if any difference, but as next gen matures the PS4's significant extra horsepower will begin to show little by little. Devs naturally want to push visuals with each successive release as much as their skill and hardware will allow. Once devs are up to speed on optimizing for both platforms its inevitable we'll see differences.

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@de-astroturfer Exactly right. 1080p has 50% more pixels on screen than 720p. It is significantly harder to accomplish for mid-tier hardware like the PS4...and extremely hard for low-end hardware like the Xbox One.

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@LordMonkeybum That is of course your right to have your opinion. However, it would seem you are in the *vast* minority of opinion on the DS4 vs. One controller.

I still think the 360 controller is the best controller ever made. But the One controller is a major step back for me...and the DS4 is such a huge step up from the DS3 that I put the DS4 in a close 2nd behind the 360 controller.

Overall, I think one thing is for sure: Sony made a huge improvement with the DS4 to the point that controller preferences are now going to be a thing of personal preference (which says a lot, considering that most people seem to hate the DS3 and agree the 360 is objectively a better controller).

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@Halloll It's 2013. The vast majority of the 10s of millions of HDTVs out there are 1080p. It's somewhat pathetic that games on Xbone won't be able to fully utilize living room technology that's been pretty common for at least 3-5 yrs already. I think it's OK for gamers to expect that games hit the 1080p/60fps mark. MS definitely made the wrong decision to stick the Kinect in every box and go with less powerful hardware to keep costs down. Put another way: they should have made the Xbone as powerful as possible for the $400-500 price point and sold the Kinect 2.0 as an add-on. In order to compete, they will eventually be forced to release a Xbone SKU without the Kinect at a lower price point anyway. But they'll still be hamstrung with significantly less powerful hardware through the remainder of this gen.

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@RoadStar1602 If only everyone could afford (or understand how) to build a gaming PC then we'd be in a much better place as gamers. ;) I love my gaming PCs as much as the next member of the PC master race...but let's be honest, intellectual/economic barriers to entry are pretty large. :)~

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@Alves_911 R9 290X. Definitely.

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I'm going to end up buying both consoles eventually. But, all of the MS apologists in here doing a bunch of back-pedaling, down-playing, and obfuscating cracks me up. A few months ago when news leaked of the internal structure of both consoles I kept telling people the PS4 was going to be significantly more powerful, but lots of Xbone fans (and no doubt a healthy % of paid MS shills) didn't want to listen to facts. While there is certainly a lot more to gaming than graphics, there's no doubt that if the situation were reversed there would be a ton of Xbone fanatics crowing morning, noon & night. Instead, what we hear ad nauseum from these folks - including a fair % of the so-called gaming "media" - is that it's "not that big of a deal" that the Xbone is *definitely* 40-50% slower when it comes to shader performance & memory bandwidth.

All evidence points to the fact that the PS4 will run most games at 900p/1080p AND 60fps while the Xbone is going to have to down-rez to 720p to get 60fps and may end up being 720p/30fps in games with higher end textures. COD uses an old engine and doesn't look very good, barely "next gen" at all. If the Xbone is having trouble already then this isn't a good sign.

In computer terms: the PS4 is roughly equivalent to a HD7850 and the Xbone is roughly equivalent to a HD7770. If you check out the benchmarks comparing these 2 GPUs there are HUGE frame-rate differences. One example: Skyrim on the 7850 achieves about 75-80fps at 1080p while it can only achieve 30-35 fps on the 7770. This is quite simply a fact. The laws of physics tend to be problematic for hardcore Xbone fans/shills who don't want to face facts.

I'm still looking forward to the Xbone for its exclusives. I simply wish more people were willing to admit they were wrong rather than pretending that it's "no big deal" when we all know that it will become a bigger deal over time as next-gen game engines mature and the PS4 is capable of rendering in-game graphics in the next 2-3 yrs that the Xbone simply cannot match.
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@ArataWata And yet every new COD sells a bajillion copies. The people who "hate" COD are a small minority of "true gamers". Most of the casual/gaming audience still laps up COD like fat kids inhale cake. Same thing with Madden being a truly horrible re-hash every year, yet tons of people not as into gaming as the people who frequent gaming sites like us still buy a bajillion copies of it.

So, at the very least this is why it's a legitimate reason to use these games to compare the two next-gen consoles: because there are literally millions of eyeballs who are going to see and naturally compare the appearance/performance of COD/Madden/etc... on next gen systems. And a fair percentage of them - yes, even the ones who are brain dead when it comes to understanding "gamer spec stuff" - will immediately see that the same game looks better on one system vs. the other. This sort of thing tends to spread via word of mouth pretty quickly.

It's true that graphics are not everything - especially to those of us who are part of the "core gamer audience". But when it comes to the casual audience it could be argued that graphics mean much more. After all, if you can own a system that costs the same or less than its competitor and happens to make the same games look/play better...most people will choose that cheaper/more powerful system. This is what MS is up against as word of mouth begins to spread after both systems launch.

Mark my words: MS is going to be forced to release a Xbone without the Kinect at $399 ($349 if they are smart) within the first year of launch in order to compete. Perhaps much sooner.