[QUOTE="sonicphc"]Give them some slack? NO. My rant on the issue. No need to make it 12 miles long if he shouldn't be running that fast.kbaily

Just ignore noob fans like that. Basically it's like Sega takes a big sh-- on the ground. We look at it, we smell it and we know it's sh-- yet the fans who defend the crap games pick up the piece of sh-- and enthusiastically defend that the thing they're now holding and adoring is not sh-- and then proceed to explain how Sega's sh-- doesn't stink.

Once upon a time I would've thought at game like Sonic and the Black Knight was cool, and then I turned 13.

fine, you guys are right.

But Black Knight got could reviews on Youtube (besides ign)

http://www.youtube.com/user/Darknessthecurse (Unleashed Review)

Anyone need help with Sonic Unleashed (Xbox 360/PS3)?sonictrainer

lol, one 8 year old ranted about sonic-06 being a perfect game

*cough* final story

Well Cloud posted this article.

http://kotaku.com/5163225/you-havent-seen-the-last-of-sonic-the-werehog

Someone at Sega seems to think that because Sonic Unleashed sold well as the Wii/PS2 versions got decent scores that it obviously means people liked the werehog. This makes me want to slam my head into a desk.

SEGA!! THE REASON PEOPLE LIKED SONIC UNLEASHED WAS BECAUSE OF THE EXCELLENT DAY STAGES YOU MADE!! WE WANTED MORE OF THAT. I WAS WILLING TO PUT UP WITH THAT SLOW, CLUNKY WEREHOG BECAUSE THERE WERE GREAT REGULAR SONIC STAGES!!! NO ONE WANTS THE WEREHOG BACK!! STOP MAKING SONIC SLOWER! SONIC IS NOT SUPPOED TO BE SLOW!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR FAT HEADS!! MAKE AN ENTIRE GAME WITH JUST SONIC RUNNING FAST LIKE THE DAY STAGES OF UNLEASHED!! THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO AND YOU CAN'T SEEM TO DO THAT. IS EVERYONE ON THE SONIC TEAM THAT F---ING RETARDED?!!!

Of course I could've dealt with the werehog more if it had been more, and I think we all could've if the game had been like 75% Sonic and only 25% werehog. Then there's the question of how you bring the werehog back because Unleashed pretty much tied up everything. Chip is gone back to his eternal sleep and the Earth was sealed up and the werehog came about because of the dark gaia energy changed him. SPOILER in the end the Dark Gaia beast drained the dark energy from Sonic the Werehog changing him back to normal.

But I've isolated the problem with the current slew of games and it's that Sega doesn't want Sonic to be fast anymore. They're trying to find a way to make people accept him being slower because they can make an easier game that way and a longer one. Their fear is that if they make Sonic just running fast, the game will be over too fast. But speed is Sonic's thing. It's like taking jumping away from Mario. It defeats the purpose of the character. Hence began the questing, the friends and making Sonic do everything instead of just being Sonic.

Now perhaps if the werehog was retooled to be A) faster or B) less repetitive. Perhaps make the werehog an item (like Mario's Fire Flower in Galaxy). Sonic touches it transforms for a few minutes, long enough to smash through or climb something, then change back to regular Sonic.

But it's clear that apparently Sega has no desire to return Sonic to the greatness he once had and would rather milk him endlessly and get the easy cash from the furries, die hard fans and kids. I should've known this when they wanted fans to decide the setting of the next story game.

kbaily

12 miles!

Give Sega some slack!

The were-hog was fun, black knight was fun, IF YOU DECIDED TO RUN AND KILL ENEMIES AT THE SAME TIME, nobody notices that

I find this statement false

What would you attack with, guns?

*cough* Shadow

I really don't see a point in Sonic X, the story was horrible (if you didn't play SA 1 or 2 the plot was even worse),

but who would want to see a hedgehog beating up an old man with a wacky mustache every episode.

Same thing goes to *cough* mario super show

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle

that game was awesome, with the chao breeding (dark dragob chao FTW), tons of missions (i didn't complete them all),

but best of all, my memory card kept formating itself so i beat the game 23 times

now that's replay value, to the extent I got pissed off!:evil:

but still awesome game.

but my favorite game is Sonic 3

i am dying to play Sonic CD

[QUOTE="Cloud_765"]

[QUOTE="kbaily"]Wanna get flamed the easiest? Just say something negative about Shadow. Fanboys love to defend Shadow's craptastic game because unlike '06 the developers never came out and admitted it was crap and they will not only defend how cool Shadow is but explain as to why his game didn't suck.ktulu007

I'm a Shadow fan.

You don't see me defending his game though. I know it's crap. Anyone with a working brain knows that.

I'm with Cloud, I think that Shadow is an interesting character but his game is atrocious. It's probably the single worst Sonic game ever made.

[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]I swear, the more I go onto YouTube, the more fan-boys I find. I questioned what was the point of bringing Shadow back when the Metarex came, and got attacked so badly, I had to limb away to my defense bunker. Was no easy battle, but I'll save that for another time. Also, as I may have already posted somewhere, I was also yelled at for saying Unleashed was supposed to be 3. I then told them it dosn't matter if it says Adventure 3 on the title, nowadays it'd be so much crap even a landfill wouldn't have room for it. To put it simple, avoid commenting on Sonic videos. * lift up my arm with bite marks all over as an example*kbaily

Those fans are the reason, Sonic takes such a beating from critics because it would be one thing if the game was just bad and we moved on like with Crash and Spyro but Sonic has such a fantatical fanbase mostly made up of ADD riddled kids who didn't know who Sonic was until Sonic X then went out and bought two games for their PS2 (probably Heroes and Shadow) and fawn over Shadow and hated Secret Rings and Unleashed, not because of awkward controls or a slow werehog but because Only Sonic was playable. That's their basis on why a game is good or not. If that angsty c--- isn't there saying emo stuff, the game has to suck. They've probably never even played the Genesis originals and spend their days making ahem...music videos which mostly consist of Sonic X and game clips set to whatever song is popular this week and spend their days obsessing about the Sonic couples and making Jason Griffith hate videos. See my Blue Blur article "Are they Serious?"

I don't waste my time on those morons who apparently have waaaaay too much time on their hands.

but yes, those fanboys should shut the f up

[QUOTE="kbaily"]

I came across this article written by a great online writer who writes some great (but long) articles and like myself, he's grown tired of this idiotic industry. Biased gaming journalists and the stupid "casual vs. hardcore" war fabricated by the gaming media and in this article he was discussing "franchises."

Like many of you, I have wondered why Sonic the Hedgehog has become so awful. How can the game makers be so dumb? It is one thing to make a bad Sonic game, but how can every Sonic game be bad with one after another? How in the world does this happen? It appears what they are doing is not making a platform game, which is what original Sonic attempted to do. No, they are making a 'franchise' which means putting all the stereotypes of Sonic into a game: the characters, 'speed', Robotnik, and so on. Making a good platformer is not the aim.

That's essentially what Sega's doing. Just slapping Sonic into their latest half-baked ideas. They don't care about making him good again. They would just rather milk money out of kids and iditoic fans.

Malstrom has a series of really good gaming related articles worth reading.

http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/why-ive-stopped-respecting-this-industry/

loopy_101

Two words: Sonic Riders

:lol:

i see some hope for sonic

*cough*

sonic 4