i think the next movie should be about victor fries. I think it will do better then a movie about peguin or riddler or even catwoman.TheShadowLord07

Dr Freeze doesn't fit into this Batman universe at all I don't think. To go more with the story, I think Riddler is perfect, and Penguin while unrealistic in a since, it would work since the whole underground mob with Penguin and what not would make sense.

This can be considered a reply to the last 7 posts;

I did also hear that Nolan just doesn't want to use Penguin. True he's nothing unusal, but maybe he just shares my opinion that he's also so lame. His tradmark being umbrellas and a boird fetish. Glad to hear he won't be in any upcoming movies. Harley Quinn I can't see happening as she's too comical, whereas Joker was a real menacing psychotic terror. I can't see this version taking on a side kick.

Of course many other well knowns are ruled out as well for being too far in the realm of the unusual and beyond human - Manbat, Clayface, Sub Zero, Killer Croc. Though I think there would be a great deal of possibility with Clayface, where he uses his shapeshifting abilities to create tremendous discord in Gotham - impersonating Batman, Gordon, the mayor, and who ever else, but espcially Batman, people thinking they witnessed him commiting crimes.

Poison Ivy - where did anybody get the idea that she's interested in Robin? All my reading experience has shown that she's always tried to enslave Batman with her mind toxins, to make him her personal soldier. And it's with her seduction talents I think she makes for a great villain. Especially casting Scarlet Johansson.

I very much want to see Riddler in an upcoming movie, but to be done right and not the way Jim Carrey or Frank Gorshin did it. I think Wentworth Miller would be spot on for the role. And while it is agreed that Riddler is more high profile, Dr Strange really is the more appropriate choice just specifically for the plot idea I had a few posts back. I think Riddler would be better suited for some other kind of story. This goes to say that I really really hope the next movie isn't the last. There's more than enough material to keep Batman going on beyond just the prepackaged triolgy format.

And Nolan really said he didn't want to touch Catwoman?? Really???? Not even if the sooooo hot Kate Beckinsale got into that snug form fitting bodysuit? But seriously, the unique mutual attraction and adversarial protagonist/antagonist relationship dynamic they have is just TOO good not to use. Especially given how Nolan could work that so much better than any of the past directors. Ohhhh Nolan, how could you pass this up???

I should add, much of what I said here ties into the post where I initiated the Next Villain subject of this topic. Hope y'all read that, (it's 2 pages back if you view 20 ppp) and I left this open for everybody to pitch in their casting ideas for the various villains. So lets hear em :)

AdobeArtist

While I want Riddler, Nolan wants to stay faithful to the Dark Knight comics, and Riddler isn't in them I don't think.

Wait, how is the Penguin too unrealistic? He's a normal guy with some gadgets and a lot of underworld (crime) connections. He's basically like a crime boss. He has no superpowers nor any "super gadgets". He's just a completely sane criminal mastermind. I think he'd be the perfect villain for the next movie since he contrasts the Joker entirely. Whereas the Joker is just pure evil and insanity, wanting nothing more than chaos, the Penguin is sane and has reason driving his actions. He wants money and power, but he's not gonna torch the whole world just to get it.

I really don't see what makes the Penguin such a bad choice.

Skittles_McGee

Well he isn't super unrealistic, but it isn't really worth discussing, seeing Nolan has already denied using The Penguin.

[QUOTE="goodlay"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]No way Nolan can top 2.AdobeArtist

Spiderman had 3 villains, with poor vision and not the best cast ever, it was doomed to flop. I think Nolan can pull anything off, and instead of quoting all of these posts, I'll post my response to each proposed villain that I really disagree with.

First off, Adobe your idea is cool and would work, but it would make more sense to use a more high profile and well known villain like The Riddler for the supposively final film.

Poison Ivy wouldn't exactly make sense in the story right now, maybe in the first one since it was about messing up Gotham's water supply, but now? Especially since she doesn't like Batman, rather Robin, and he isn't coming in, I can't see that happening.

Next is Harley Quinn, whos costume is absolutely ridiculous and since she's involved with The Joker, I can't see them doing Harley Quinn without having The Joker in the movie, since they work together. I can't see Nolan casting The Joker again so shortly after Heath's death, so that's out the window.

Catwoman has already been denied by Nolan and he said he will never touch her.

The perfect fit here for a female villain would be Talia A Ghul. Ras was the main villain in Begins, and it would make sense to have her here. And Batman could desperately fall for her maybe.

As for The Penguin, he's too unrealistic to be portrayed in this Batman world, and Nolan has already said he doesn't want to use villains like Mr Freeze and The Penguin since they are too unrealistic.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]No way Nolan can top 2.Jandurin

Who would think that Spielberg would recover so greatly and create Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade and make the movie rival in greatness to Raiders of the Lost Ark? Who would of thought that Lucas could create something so brilliant after Empire Strikes Back? Nolan is in this group of great minds, and he can accomplish anything with Batman.

From what I have read and such, I think the best villain duo for 3 would be Ras's daughter and The Riddler.

[spoiler] I think Talia could really taunt Batman, and with the loss of Rachel maybe even he could sort of fall for her or make him miss Rachel even more. The Riddler could be brought in to help search and destroy Batman, but he could secretly have a dangerous side to him that the police and government don't know about. Got this idea from the IGN article and I think it sounds awesome. [/spoiler]

Who I think - The Chargers if they stay healthy.

Who I want - The Panthers.

There is already a thread on this.

Heath Ledger is the best. I thought Jack Nicholson was terrible as The Joker.

sammyjenkis898

He wasn't terrible imo, I just thought it was basically Jack Nicholson in a costume and some make-up, it wasn't really original.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="goodlay"]More accessible = Super Mario Sunshine ----> Super Mario GalaxyHoffgod

Yar.