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Great review Tom. Keep it up.

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@OurSin-360 @gamingqueen if I were an expert at Maya, regardless of my gender, they'd roll down red carpets for me hehehe.

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@OurSin-360 @gamingqueen True. I think it's got to do with the fact that game developing used to be exclusive to very few people. Ten or fifteen years ago, you wouldn't see ads hiring people to work in games. Nowadays they all want Maya experts (Crystal Dynamics I'm looking at you) all of them do.

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@bluefox755 @gamingqueen so we should leave monsato and exxon mobil to do as they wish? Libertarian?

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@bluefox755 @gamingqueen No I don't doubt myself. It's just how you insist on turning this into a libertarian versus authoritarian discussion is quite off putting. Just because the women around you don't need to have equal wages as men or cedaw or any of the things I mentioned above doesn't mean government shouldn't do them. This isn't how things work. This is like saying, you know what since no one is stealing we should decriminalize robbery and we don't need a law that tells us we shouldn't steal.

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@dyze @gamingqueen Yes and I still do because quota means denying other people things for the wrong reasons. Not being female is one. You get a talented guy and a less talented girl, would you hire the girl just for the fact that she's a girl? Another example is fashion industry, I'd rather wear clothes designed by Valentino and Armani than Vivian Westwood. Does it mean we should hire more people like Westwood just because she's a woman? What about male designers market and loyal buyers?

What's a good alternative to Quota? Study the market. Look at the most selling books, films, most watched shows by women and try to do similar games to those. Look for the topics which interest women the most. Sex, relationships ( fifty shades of grey and dating simulation games come to mind) and make games with similar topics.

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@dyze @gamingqueen I respect your opinion but I have to disagree for the following reasons:

Women are able to get through any establishment/industry without the help of quota. It'll happen I assure you because where I reside, even though women were given their political rights recently, four women made it to parliament and without a quota. I also think quota puts a limit on the number of women who can get in.

As for hiring more women "because women will help make games diverse" not really. Jade Raymond, produce of the first Assassins Creed, didn't make a game with a female character in lead. The same applies to other women in the industry. Also, most games with female character in lead were made by men.

I believe the same goes for TV and film. You'd be surprised by the number of black authors/screen writers and scenarists who have written shows where the whole cast is of one race. While it's true that people like to relate with characters in films, books and games but making relatable characters isn't limited to making games with character who share the audience' skin color.

If quota helps familiarize gamers with the women in industry scene then I'm totally for it.

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@bluefox755 @gamingqueen And then needing help. What a way to downplay an issue. No wonder Todd Akin is a senator.

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@bluefox755 @gamingqueen I disagree. Government control over people =/= government control over corporate. I think government should step up and not allow corporate to punish women for being women. And really this isn't about more or less government it's about women not having rights and using every way possible to claim those rights whether it's through government, through you. I don't care :)

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@bluefox755 Not really:

Equal pay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_gender_pay_gap,_by_sex,_race-ethnicity.001.png

paid leave: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave

read the number next to US.

reproductive rights:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States

Countries sign international and regional conventions to make up for any shortcomings or loopholes in national laws which is why the VAW act was important. It covered most of the topics cedaw and other agreements addressed.