Unpopular opinion: what made old RTS games good was 40% soundtrack,40% cutscenes,20% gameplay
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@xantufrog: the gameplay is fine ! and i pretty sure SC2 is a good multiplayer game,but SC2 failed to provide the grim and dark atmosphere of the original Starcraft,just like diablo 3 failed when compared to Diablo 1 and Diablo 2.Just watch the cinematics of old blizzard games and compare to the new ones,the new ones tries too much to be epic with all over the top action cinematics(just like in a blockbuster movie)instead of making a more creative and atmospheric scene.
Anyway,not related to the thread,but today i started playing Starcraft 2 trilogy campaigns for the first time(i'm a fan of the original starcraft campaigns),holy crap ! Starcraft 2 is so boring !!! everything from the cinematics,to the soundtrack,to the voice acting,everything feels like a generic blockbuster movie,SC2 lack of any soul or appeal, really ! feels like World of Warcraft.Now i understand why people hate Diablo 3 so much ! Blizzard nowadays makes every game looking like a generic boring Blockbuster movie to appeal to the masses,**** them !!
I heard SC2 atleast has some good designed single player missions and challenging skirmish against AI,but i don't know if i can stand all the boring bullshit this game throw at my screen !
@ArchoNils2: here look at gamefaqs and steam:
there alot of games that is not supposed to be RTS yet they are still listed as RTS just because the whole thing is a mess.If we going to consider the true meaning of Real-Time-Strategy then alot of Strategy games are RTS or part RTS.Now if we going to consider only dune 2 clones as RTS then the genre is almost truly dead.
@xantufrog: Any strategy game played in real time is a RTS ! RTS stand for "realtime-strategy".Cities Skylines is a strategy game played in real time.Now,one game can have alot of genres,lets look at fallout 4:
Fallout 4 is primarily a RPG,then a Action game,Sandbox,Open-world,First-Person,Third-Person,Shooter and so on...
Cities Skylines is primarily a Strategy game then a City Builder,Real-Time-Strategy,Sandbox,Management and maybe some others minor sub-genres.
RTS is real-time-strategy,any game that is primarily a Strategy game and that is played in real time is part RTS.Even games like Total War and Europa Universalis are part RTS.
I don't think Media or Consoles is a problem,alot of niche games are sucessfull in the pc: The Paradox Games,City Builders,RimWorld...
The problem is that people don't consider any real time strategy games other than Starcraft and similiar games as RTS's,so by that logic any other FPS games than DOOM clones or old-school shooters are not FPS.There alot of RTS games out there ! they are just different than Starcraft,now the Starcraft sub-genre is indeed fading just like the DOOM clones are rare in some years ago.
The problem with the RTS genre is that people will associate all the RTS genre with only games like age of empires,Starcraft,Command and Conquer,Warcraft and so on...these games are very similiar because they're are in a sub-genre of RTS that never had a name.Take a look at Wolfenstein 3D/DOOM,they are in a FPS sub-genre that is called old-school fps,now take a look at Arma/Battlefield,they are in the military fps sub-genre,they are very different from old-school fps but they are still called as a FPS.Now take a look at Command and Conquer/Starcraft(C&C and Stacraft are to the RTS's what Wolfenstein 3D and DOOM is to FPS's)they are RTS,they are similiar,but people never gave to these games a specific Sub-genre name so they are called just as a RTS,now...take a look at games like Myth,Commandos,Pharaoh,League of Legends,Cities Skylines,Stronghold,Tropico or Nexus: The Jupiter Incident,would you call these games as RTS's ? because technically they are !! just in a different sub-genre.
So...is not the RTS genre that is dying,is the Dune/C&C/Starcraft clones that are rare nowadays just like the Wolfenstein 3d/DOOM clones are rare nowadays.
@vagrantsnow: Yep,is not your fault.The game is just impossible to beat 1x1 against AI.
@ten_pints: Remake ? where ?
The AI of Empire Earth is atrocious ! really,on "EASY" they never attack you so the game become boring but once you put on "NORMAL" difficulty is just become impossible,is harder than beating 1x7 AI's on Age of Empires 2 at the Hardest difficulty.I managed to beat the computer AI on 'NORMAL' but only in 2x1 with another AI helping me.i can't even imagine how the "HARD" difficulty is.If you don't believe me just read this shit:
The worse part is there still no mods to fix this garbage !! for a cult classic game i was expecting a community to fix the game,since is the only big problem with the game anyway.I serious think the AI ruined this game !!! Empire Earth only have one big flaw,but is a colossal flaw !!! what the **** the developers are thinking ? did they even tried to test the skirmish before realising the fucking game ?
Well atleast there still Rise of Nations to play thank god !!!