@moc5 Oh, and btw, now I get your 'attitude'. I realize you gave game a '8' or so you say, but to use the analogy of chicks and teets, makes you severely mentally challenged and way too masculine and tough guy for me to handle</sarcasm>

@moc5 well hm, so what equates to you, of a game that is so watered down as to cause average IQ of console gamer t drop ? And who made you god, or dare I say Mr arrogant, to deem those players IQ to have tanked ? Maybe you need to check your empathy card I think it needs refilled. I've seen a few reviews from people who like TL2, but feel they missed bullseye by making sklill tree like D2 and not 'innovating' like D3 did. It's on youtube if you care to , enlighten yourself. I have also played D3, and there is no watering down of any consequence, that hurts the game on any level, and you would know that if you checked latest stats from blizzard shows hundreds of thousands still playing. Only public servers are seeing drops, and given I was hit more than once with a bot, who could blame them. Even with D2, public games were a massive joke for that reason, and btw, its why they made ah/rmah, to allow people to enjoy trade/buy where they wanted, instead of being taken in game or on ebay, and yes, they are making a bit of a profit for doing so. Welcome to real life.

I might wish the branching quests were here like in D2 instead of the linear form we have, but I've gotten used to it, and I dont' whine about it. Whatever floats ones boat.

@moc5 Ha, TL2 graphics are way too cartoony, but I get they are trying to keep requirement down possibly for all users, which is what blizzard also did similarly with D3. D3s graphics are far superior tough, and it easily shows in shaders among other things.From what Ive seen, and while TL 2 looks interesting, I'd rather spend $20 on something else. I 've tried TL1 demo, and the art work is do bad that its not easy to see where the stairs are sometimes. Talk about easy LOL,,,TL1 is so easy you never die. At least D3 , even in normal mode has plenty of challenge.

@VaporPigPoop I agree..Everyone wanted it released, remember all the crying ? Now that its here, they complain more while blizzard trys to fix the rest and add more content.

@dreamchaserwu average user rating means nothing, it just means there are alot of whiny kids here yelling and screaming, just like they do on other games they want to trash because they dont have what it takes to beat the game. The blizzard forums were /are just like that too, and most gave up already. I guess they got tired of talking like idiots, saying things like wanting jays head on a spike. Real mature, and I say borderline psychotic and deserving jail time.Most rational people dont talk like that, and I see some of that same beavior here. OH game sucks! life isn't worth living nannanna...yeah sure.

@Hendry_7777 There is no player base dwwindling, where are you getting your stats ? The dwidling part, is public games, and those games were subject to cheaters and annoying players, even in D2. Get your facts straight.

@Hendry_7777 It most defintely Did deserve 8.5, and I played D2/LOD for 100+ hours. I had zero issues , short of admissions by blizzard and fixes done/coming, with playing and enjoying D3, at all.

@shahirbear Inferno issues are known, and being fixed ( if not already ) . It wAS clearly stated by D3 devs that the AH/rmah was not mandatory to progress in the game..how else do you think items are thee for purchase, but by those that 'stuck it out' for the challenge and got those items ? Somebody is better than you, face it. That's life, and there is your blissful moment ;)

@ainouta You are an exception to the rule, not the norm. At least you have given specifics, unlike so many, but what you fail to realize by your lack of research, is that the game is being patched and Pvp and palyer progression is coming. Does anyone remmeber, that D2 was also not perfect on release ?

@buccomatic The $20 shows in the fact its very cartoony, something I guess you missed for convenience to make it sound like D3 is SO terrible that its going to be killed , as if. MOre content may be true, but then D3 hasn't been released all that long, and PvP and progressions are coming, but you would know that if you were here to be objective, not some teeny bopper trash talker. I dont mind DRM, as I know why they did it, but those who want to cheat, would. I do wish there were pets, but dealing with cartoony graphics, and clear indications from several reviewers ( and I also agree) that the skill tree is not forwards thinking makes it clear TL2 is mess compared to D3, which is stunning in many ways, which I just outlined. If you have no patience to the extent you need to pull your hair out, it shows how , immature you really are. Busted!