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Thats not just about pixels. Its about making a parody of a recent tragedy that is alive in the minds of many people. Without caring about many people that can feel emotionally hurt MW2 does this just for money and shameless propaganda.

Tell me what good comes out of this level? From a human's and even from a gamer's perspective?

fixer293

There are many other ways to deepen the story line without hurting people emotionally. Parodying a recent tragedy is just not the only one way to do that. Moreover, storyline is not important part of an FPS game.

Regarding "offensive" things, everyone has to care about the emotions of other people. Thats why people dont joke around about a dead person or parody him in his funeral. Emotions are very high for some years after a recent tragedy and the subject matter is very sensitive. People not affected by the tragedy may not feel it, but there could be many people that can feel emotionally hurt. I think that its better to avoid a thing that can emotionally hurt many people especially when the same objective like deeper storyline can be achieved by other means.

Regarding Jack Thomson/GTA, that is already debatable whether GTA is good or bad. We may draw a line for GTA, but MW2 is crossing that line. In addition, we cannot justify worst things by saying that bad things already happen in other games.

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[QUOTE="fixer293"] If you don't understand what I typed, then you are just not a good reader are you? Pixels do not cause me to be Frightened, unlike you. And a game, does not invoke 9/11 in me.. And I don't care how little whiny girly boys feel. Does that answer your question?fixer293

Don't use the word frightened. :idea: It's about being offended, and I think that's exactly what you've been, taking into account your attitude.

Thats not just about pixels. Its about making a parody of a recent tragedy that is alive in the minds of many people. Without caring about many people that can feel emotionally hurt MW2 does this just for money and shameless propaganda.

Tell me what good comes out of this level? From a human's and even from a gamer's perspective?

I dont get why so many people are so bothered about MW2 terrorist massacre? Some people say its morally wrong to add it into the game but i think that peopleare just picking onMW2 because its apopular game. If MW2 was based on a real event then i could understand why people are upset about this but its not. Its a made up scenario like load of other games in the past. Some games are just as bad or worse but didn't get people upset to the point of not buying the game.

GTA games used to have kill frenzies.

Fallout you can nuke a whole town.

State of Emergency with a PS2 game where you run around the street killing loads of people rioting. The bonus game was based in a mall where you had to run around and slaughter unarmed people. The more kill in the time limit the better.

Fable 2 you can marry more than one person, take you wife or husband to be executed on the torture wheel and leave your kid as a orphan. Massacre the whole town just to get some loot.

This is just some examples. What other games can you remember that have morally wrong moments in them that are just as bad as MW2 but no one moaned about?

campbell1874

Terrorism is a very sensitive and a current issue. People, especially those affected by terrorism, can differentiate between these games and something like a terrorism simulator. Morality is never 0 or 1 and there is always a limit to somethings.

Moreover games like GTA etc are already debatable whether they are bad or good. Some people may draw the line at GTA, but MW2 is simply crossing that line. You cannot justify worse things by saying that bad things happen already.

When will the non-PC gamers understand the following: "If you cant beat them (us PC gamers) then consider joining them". :P

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[QUOTE="bufu21"]Um how is this any different from the GTA series?Shad0ki11

it "simulates" real life events

You're more likely to get your car stolen at gunpoint than have terrorists storm an airport you're in. :|

getting a car stolen doesnt cause that amount of mass emotional hurt as compared to major terrorist attacks. Morality is not about 0 and 1, but its relative. I feel what MW2 is doing is sick and I hope their game gets banned in some countries.

Some people may try to turn this around, but the point is that this is "sick" if it is true.

Me, but it only happens a few times per race. You get over it.SpruceCaboose

its realism on another level! Ever heard of pit stops?

Yes, disc swap here simulates pit stops. The guy swapping the discs fastest has advantage over other racers.:twisted:

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"] Not...even close :lol::lol:GTR2addict

I have played GTR2. Its more realistic and I like it, but Forza scores over it in terms of variety (never dowloaded the cars made by GTR2 community) and graphics. Dont know if it is same in GTREvo, rFactor, GT legends etc.

Moreover, for such realistic games lik e GTR2, you need a wheel and the controllers are not good.

Lol, we already have a PS_John contender?

On Topic: Looks like some people need to play baldur's gate. If this game is anything like BG then the turn based combat is actually realtime + pause type of combat.

You have to do many things very fast like thinking of counter attacks from different spells, use of magic spells, etc.

[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"][QUOTE="It_Is_Wut_It_Is"] imagine having rewind in sonic. "oops i missed a coin, let me just pause and rewind to the last coin, ok time to play again. It_Is_Wut_It_Is

prove that rewind feature is a bad thing and then we will talk. Till then the point is invalid. Moroever, you know that you cant use rewind in multiplayer? (Forza's best feature is its multiplayer)