Ladies and gentle beans let me take you through the steps of the past few days that has led to my banishment from the isles of westeros in hopes you can get a better idea of what has happened on the forums.
May 1st
Cryce PMS JML asking him to delete Pokajabbas account using JMLS own mindset of his hatred against scott to try an manipulate him into doing it. Which was on the verge of working by the way.
Note for reference , this was stated in my post on the Offtopic section page 207.
May 3rd
After i had a talk with my fellow associate (Pokajabba) i realised that actually asking JML wasn't the right person to do so for the following reasons. Despite knowing JML despises Scott i had yet to understand that JML had sent PMS to scott himself when he asked politely for his account to removed from the forums. The message contained from JML to pokajabba was in summary "You're an arsehole and i don't have to do whatever you tell me." a message response to a lenghty essay detailing why he wanted his account removed before hand was met with a reply from JML which only consisted of "Nah."
Note for reference, this PM i just mentioned can be seen on the Offtopic section page 207.
May 3rd
Cryce PMS Spideynerd on behalf of Pokajabba's own reference to a more viable sense of maturity. Cryce asks spideynerd to delete pokajabbas account in which Spideynerd also felt the same way in the discussion we had and felt it reasonable to think about the situation more so than he already has.
Note for reference, this summary of the PM i just mentioned can be seen on the Offtopic section page 204 in which i had an argument discussing IPS and DOS attacks. It can also be seen on Page 207, where i mention spidey was thinking about it before i got involved and more details on what Pokajabba's reasoning was. And 205.
May the 4th be with you.
Cryce receives PM from Spidey in the morning telling me, "You can tell pokajabba his account has been deleted."
Cryce then looks at his rep system and realises JML has put "Cryce 1, Spidey 0" Kirby has left minus rep for spidey which states " You know why?" Again a childish move by both members of the admin party, seemingly targeting a single admin out because of his actions. In which Spidey responds "No i don't no why, i've done nothing to deserve -Rep" It seemed like spidey had to justify that which shouldn't be the case, he simply did nothing wrong.
Cryce PMS JML asking what the rep is about. JML responds with the next childish move. "Because you manipulated spidey into deleting pokajabbas account." Hence stating spidey has no mind to make a decision for himself which is in my mind a lack of workmanship with the admin group.
Cryce PMS JML back saying in summary " He made the decision himself i just helped him realise why."
Note , cross reference all pages above this date on the Offtopic section for the above PM and you will find me saying this.
JML PMS Cryce saying "It's not that i'm annoyed at the fact he deleted pokajabbas account it's the fact Spideynerd never confronted us about it first when me and kirby were against." Reasonable if JML didn't have any quarrels with pokajabba and didn't want to delete his account based on the fact " Scott's an arsehole and JML didn't have to do anything Scott told him to." Clearly stating that JML had a childs mind set that he would not be over ruled into making a decision by a man that had asked politely with reasoning.
Note, Reference on the offtopic section 206 on kirbys post "in Quote" that states the ball would be played in Pokajabbas court if they were to give Scott what he wanted.
Again a childs mind set in thinking that Scott would some how have the upper hand. Why would anyone want to think that unless they thought scott a threat, in which every single member on the forum knows this isn't the case and that Scott is not one to play silly games opposing a big head against the rest of the admin community. He clearly gets along with one admin and this case makes no sense because once scott account had been deleted it was the end of his story and nothing would of been thought about it other than he got what he asked for with stated reasons as to his own personal privacy.I have known him for 12 years, he's not one to play games for a win.
Cryce responds to JML's message in summary " I knew you'd be annoyed but me and spidey both came to the same conclusions and understood each other and he probably doesn't want to talk with in a group session with you as he most likely feels like any decision will only go one way even if he didn't think it to be right."
I also said " When i asked you to make people admins i think you made the wrong choice with Kirby because he cannot think for himself and basis his theories on yours. He also tends to create more problems than solves them.
I was implying that Kirby and JML only see situations their way and no one elses. Which is probably why spidey wants nothing to do with in group sessions because he is old enough and ugly enough to make decisions rightly from which he views them.
Note, Reference on the offtopic section page 207 in which i have stated Spidey ultimately made the decision for himself and was thinking about it before i intervened. Also i wrote about not thinking the idea that kirby was a good admin and that JML should of gone with a more mature by-stander such as Fromage, which can also be seen on page 207.
Pm's on this date also include me telling spidey not to worry about his decision and that the only people that will be on his back would be JML and Kirby. He thought they were biased against their decision not to delete pokajabbas account from the start.
THE FOLLOWING IS ASWELL AS THE ABOVE TO DEFEND MY ABOLISHMENT FROM THE IRON THRONE.
On the off topic section i tried to keep a suttle form when fromage asked about pokajabbas account. I kept it as formal and short as possible ignoring the fact at first JML had the following.
"His account is deleted, yeah.
Only admins can delete accounts though + I didn't do it I was on team "keep his account around in case he wants to come back someday."
Implying that he actually wanted Pokajabba to come back. Even though both were on bad terms with one and other, and JML had been immature and abrasive towards Scott about his decisions to leave and ask for his account to be removed.
I knew JML was trying to snake to the community and responded with my discretion on page 205 of the off topic section, trying to show the board members what he was really like. This can be seen as an attack and is a rightful cause for banning me on their terms. However it ended there with a form of sarcastic banter about Ice hockey.
On page 206 of the offtopic forum i was given a warning by Kirby to drop the situation or i'd be banned. I stated in my defence this should of been dropped this morning and left between private messages, however i was annoyed and JMLs advantage to try and slither a lie into his " Prominent appearance of liking Pokajabba, making himself seem reasonable behind closed curtains."
I then told kirby i'm willing to leave it here but i don't think you're, so prove me wrong. Kirby unfortunately didn't and continued to argue 20 minutes after i was finished. Highlighting the fact he was being a hypocrite by telling me not to prolong the argument but doing it himself.
NOTE, FROM THIS POINT ONWARDS I DEFENDED MYSELF AND MY FRIEND IN A REASONABLE MANNER JUST AS KIRBY HAD TRIED TO DO WITH HIMSELF. AND FROM THAT POINT ONWARDS IT WAS FINISHED.
As far as i was concerned after this we all seemed to just flow with each other in the Extreme rules thread. Nothing i had said really caused me to be banned as other than i will admit provoking an attack on JML. But it was subsided by a warning and then continuous argument when i had left the situation by Kirby, the admin of the board. And his choice to continue exasperated the case even more, i didn't feel as if i was completely in the wrong on this ONE.
I went on through that night letting everything go and got on with the roundtable which i enjoyed, completley forgetting about the whole situation.
May 5th (You'll love this one.) Truthtellers, prepare your anus.
Late in the night i received a message from Truth tellers.
PM in summary " I tried to make an account Paul Heyman and Kirby completely ruined it so i went to JML to try and tell him to give me a break and let me play it out as a persona. JML just told me to basically f'ck off and that he will not take any action against Kirby EVER."
If this is true, yet another childish form of alliance to staple one member of the forum to a board. I understand the annoyance of complaint by TT but JMLS response was not needed in that manner.
My response " Just ignore kirby and use the persona and play it out and see what happens. JML will never listen to you no matter what you say so there's no point of even arguing."
Truth tellers response " If i make a topic vote on JML abdicating his adminship to someone else will you have my back? He's really starting to annoy me now. I might just pull a Jedi knight and threaten if this continues because i've had enough now."
My response " There's no point in making this topic because what ever happens he will still remain admin as he is the leader of the forum and no one will really pay attention to it. And don't bother sending him death threats there's no point in that either.
Truth tellers response " I bet his reply to my topic would be "I don't care?"
This was then followed by another response by TT listing things JML would say in the topic if he had made it. His response was ignored.
NOTE, THESE PMS WERE SENT TO ME IN AN ESTIMATE FROM THE TIMELINE I WENT TO SLEEP AFTERWARDS TILL AFTER RAW HAD FINISHED, THAT TT HAD PLANNED TO DO IT AND CAME TO ME TALKING ABOUT IT. LIKE THE STUPID PERSON HE IS, 4 HOURS LATER "BY MY ESTIMATE" HE ACTUALLY SENT HIS THREAT IN WHICH I HAD APPOSED.
TT WAS BANNED.
Not knowing any of this till this morning when i woke up and looked on my mobile through a VPN which do from time to time i had noticed i to was finally banned. But for what reason?
In the off topic section i saw two of these posts by TGM,Pure and Fromage.
TGM "Not really understanding the recent bannings... :\"
Fromage " They seem a bit unfair don't they."
Pure " Alot of the reasons this happened did happen publicly on this forum. That's why it seems so abrupt, atleast for one of the bannings anyway."
Highlight pures comment and you come to every Cross reference i have made about PMS being implicated in one way or another and you'd see EVERYTHING on my part was made public to you on the offtopic section. Nothing i really did needed a warrant for ban and i was dosile about the entire situation.
Fromage stated they were unfair yet had seemingly read through the pages of the offtopic section like most people before hand along with TGM.
Pures quotes was an implication that atleast one of them might be decisive but actually only from provoking an attack only to be followed by a later argument could maybe be the cause of justification.
I was paying much more attention to the RT and those with in it took their time out to thank me for my contributions and how well i'd done given it be my first RT PPV ever. These people would of highly unlikely wanted me banned if a decision was made and i can almost say, after snake attempts to overshadow the community into thinking JML was a respectable person,he probably lied to the whole community again when he said " People were complaining about the situation and wanted the bans."
3 People had no idea. WOTU RT members probably couldn't care less as for 24 hours the situation for me was drought and i was with all of them on their own threads. None of them would of complained. And every other member of the forum seemed like everything had gone down and people were starting to get back to normal.
There are probably 4 people including both admins that made a statement of complaints. Which would have been unjustified as they wouldn't of known the situation till now.
I also quote this last from JML himself " We work as a group to make decisions" I can gurantee you,Spidey was left out of this one.
I literally am no the bad person here at all and there are people with in the forum who grow tired of JMLs ability to BS and have seen through it already as i have been told.
If you want to do atleast one decent thing JML, tell the RT member slick that i won't be returning and as short as it was i really enjoyed my participation in their smart game of THE KINGHTS OF THE ROUNDTABLE! Oh and i always be remember as the newbie that came 3rd with points and never lost, quite a feat. Hehe.
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