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#1  Edited By cdragon_88
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@Pedro said:
@cdragon_88 said:

This whole conversation is hilarious. I'll chime in with my understanding. "Party" is only that of the publisher to developer for an IP. So God of War is 1st party for (notice this word FOR) Sony, since Sony owns the IP---regardless of where the game is released (console/PC/etc). 2nd party only refers to IP owned but developed by non-own developer studios---this 2nd party notion was dismissed by Insomniac games that no 2nd Party really exists--reality is, only 1st party and 3rd party are actually real--because regardless of whether the studio is owned by the publisher or not---the IP is, hence it's still 1st party. 3rd party are IPs that are developed independently from a publisher. Therefore, if a Developer or rather---even publisher for that matter, has their own IP but releases on another's platform---it is a third party. So........................you guys are both right---all-in-all.

  • MLB The Show is a 1st-party game FOR Sony, and a third-party game for Microsoft. So the game is both a 1st party and third party game at the same time.
  • So before Activision was bought by MS, Call of Duty was a 1st party game for Activision, but a third party game for both MS and Sony.
  • Demon Soul's is a first party game for Sony (sony owns IP). Dark Souls is a third party game for Sony (ip not owned by Sony)----both developed by From Software.

Hope this helps. LOL----or maybe hope I'm not wrong. XD XD.

I am going to apply your logic

So Assassin's Creed is 1st party for (notice this word FOR)Ubisoft since Ubisoft owns the IP---regardless of where the game is released (console/PC/etc).

Is Ubisoft considered a first party or third party developer?

For Sony and MS, AC is third party. For Ubi, AC is first-party. Ubisoft also has published third party games as well. Remember Ubisoft has the "Ubisoft Original" tagline implying it's first party developed. Here's a link.

Ubisoft Originals

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#2  Edited By cdragon_88
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

no they are third party once the developers are not owned by sony.

elder scrolls developers are first party now owned by xbox.

third party are companies like sega, ea, rockstar etc.

No, they are third party because they sell their games on Steam and Epic. They are only first party when they release games on their OWN system. Don't make the obvious complicated.

This whole conversation is hilarious. I'll chime in with my understanding. "Party" is only that of the publisher to developer for an IP. So God of War is 1st party for (notice this word FOR) Sony, since Sony owns the IP---regardless of where the game is released (console/PC/etc). 2nd party only refers to IP owned but developed by non-own developer studios---this 2nd party notion was dismissed by Insomniac games that no 2nd Party really exists--reality is, only 1st party and 3rd party are actually real--because regardless of whether the studio is owned by the publisher or not---the IP is, hence it's still 1st party. 3rd party are IPs that are developed independently from a publisher. Therefore, if a Developer or rather---even publisher for that matter, has their own IP but releases on another's platform---it is a third party. So........................you guys are both right---all-in-all.

  • MLB The Show is a 1st-party game FOR Sony, and a third-party game for Microsoft. So the game is both a 1st party and third party game at the same time.
  • So before Activision was bought by MS, Call of Duty was a 1st party game for Activision, but a third party game for both MS and Sony.
  • Demon Soul's is a first party game for Sony (sony owns IP). Dark Souls is a third party game for Sony (ip not owned by Sony)----both developed by From Software.

Hope this helps. LOL----or maybe hope I'm not wrong. XD XD.

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My first thought was, after the purchase, "I wish it could be exclusive to MS but they ain't stupid enough to lose all that money so it won't."

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No, its not. It actually creates more competition to find better studios to compete.

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Legend of Dragoon. remake, sequel, prequel, spiritual successor.....I don't care, just give me one.

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#7  Edited By cdragon_88
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GaaS model. It really is a shitty "service" disguised as a game. Most games that work with subscription or service based, is actually the opposite of GaaS---in that it is a "game" first, with live-services secondary to supplement the game.

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@MirkoS77 said:

It’s going to be highly amusing to watch the reactions and backpedaling when this hits of all those trying to pass this off as nothing but a resolution/frame-rate bump in making the argument $70 isn’t justified.

It may not be to some as that’s subjective, but stop intentionally ignoring the fact that this REMAKE is using TLoU II’s gameplay improvements, is introducing new weapons, model and environmental assets, areas to explore, modes (speed running), accessibility options, filters and gameplay modifiers. Perhaps those dumb, misinformed and gullible enough will believe none of that exists……doesn’t mean the position is nothing but based on ignorance and misinformation, and is thus hot garbage.

But hey, System Wars. Whatever fits the narrative to push the agenda.

I don't think anyone is arguing that. At least no one here is on sw is arguing that from all the posts. Whatever the case, I'll be picking it up on PC once it releases since I enjoyed it years ago on the ps3. Understandable arguing about the price, but I firmly believe, no price is too high for what one believes is worth the admission. Only if it is deemed worth it.

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@chideraann: say no to strangers kids. report the to the nearest officer if they want you to follow them.

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#10  Edited By cdragon_88
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Never foolish to buy a great game..........on PC when it releases for the first time.