yeah, but you see, you're objectivelly and mathematically wrong. Half Life isnt just some random game that does the same as others. That you perceive it now as such is funny, ALL the OTHER games have copied HL, thats why you feel its like the rest. Half Life is factually a landmark game, this is concrete, historic fact, that is all well documented - its not someones opinion on it. Half Life changed the entire gaming world almost overnight and its influence on gaming is unquantifiable - every genre and platform was affected by it, directly or not. You have its dna in games from Resident Evil 4 all the way to Uncharted.

Theres no such thing as overrated PC games - they always had to survive on their own two legs, on their actual merrits. There was never a corporate backer to hype and overinflate titles. Never brand loyalty from gamers or journos. Always their own strenghts

usually sony's exclusives - Uncharted the most of all - its a vile piece of turd shit, such a horribly designed game in evey possible and conceivable way. God of War - the most simplistic and rudimentary hack n slash, fixed camera angles, qte's, liniar affairs rated at Half Life levels on metacritic. Zelda, everything kojima and so on

yes, absolutely sure Quake wont be on consoles. Reason being controllers are such inept turds at pretty much anything outside of 2d platformers that they wont do gamedesign to accomodate such shit and instead going all out on mouse and keyboard gameplaying. The actual difference between pads and M/KB is so vast, so profound, they might as well be paralel universes, if designers are taking full advantage of it. Straight from id's mouth. Doing the game on consoles would mean doing a different game from scratch, to be able to play it with pads

I'm a PC fan, but i'm not irrational. Gamepads simply cant allow for realisticaly good gunplay because the controller isnt suited for something like this. You mentioning COD is proof. You must think playing with a pad that cod is good. Has always gotten right, rofl. On PC, with M/KB, call of duty is like shooting nails through cardboards. The guns are fixed in your hands, no recoil, no feeling, like shooting blanks. Is ridiculously bad, played on M/KB. On consoles with pads it might very well feel decent.

Rage is indeed top tier, but people should stop posting console shooters as best gunplay because its not possible. They all must design it so the inept controllers that consoles use can manage the shooting in game. It may seem to you as a console player that killzone or whatever has good shooting, but translated to M/KB it would be shit. You need mouse + keyboard to handle the recoil, aiming, reactions. You can only talk about best in class shooting with PC games.

I like that the OP mentioned the original Half Life because it is absolutely correct. Quite possibly the best feeling and sounding weapon in the entire genre at the time. You guys should replay Allied Assault to remember how awesome that game handles shooting. Since it was a PC purebreed game, every weapon feels vastly different, the recoil is outstanding and have big punch. Other than that, the usual suspects, Stalker, FEAR 1, Crysis.

Its pretty sad that the main components of a shooting game, the actual shooting, the enemies, the AI, the weapons are some of the least handled aspects of any shooter. You get something like FEAR 1 when the core elements that define the genre are taken care off, but almost nobody does it. Whats wrong with them?

Oh, you guys who posted Wolfenstein need to remove it quickly, its got nothing to do with best shooting. Its classic, nothing to write home about

Same reason Guild 3 or Spellforce 3 wasnt covered. Because its PC only and not on derpsoles. This is how the extremely consolized gaming press works today. If you're not on consoles they dont cover only the largest titles. And even then, they ask every two minutes if it doesnt come on consoles also.

For comparison, Sudden Strike 4 for some reason got announced for ps4 as well. They had articles on ign, polygon, and all the major outlets. That being an old PC only series. There you go

After the combat = gameplay we get the "not aged well" nonsense. Let me clear this up quickly for everyone: its bullshit. The game hasnt aged a day. It look great, it plays great, it controls great, it FEELS great. Time passed this game completely. If you've played a game in your life, you'll not spend more than ten seconds adapting to this game.

I see we equate combat with gameplay yet again. Gameplay is the sum of the mechanics, interactions and rules of a game. Combat is just one aspect between a thousand more. The combat is pretty basic. The gameplay is not. The character builds, the powers, abilities, their progression, the dialogue tree, the choice and consequence, they're all gameplay. And they're all masterclass. The game isnt revered because of its writing. Its because of its freedom, reactivity, C&C and very different playing classes. A one of a kind jewel

@drrollinstein: Ignorants with no standards is what you're saying, huh ?

@vfighter:

Are you having comprehension issues? It CAN play anything in the world, even if some arent exactly confortable. Its about being ABLE to. Pads have entire genres, hundreds of games that are impossible to play. Everything i said its true. Its just that most people dont understand what pads imply