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#1  Edited By bublover1
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@xhawk27 said:

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No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

LOL... Still living in the past... AHAHAHAHAHA... You're just like some whore 80-year-old who was pretty when she was 20 but can't accept that she's now an unwanted, wrinkly hag.

You think R&D for the PS4 only cost Sony 5 million and MS spent over 5 billion on the Xbox One? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

SONY let AMD do the R&D for the technology. SONY only "designed" the internals. SONY got a group of AMD tech they were considering for the PS4. Their R&D budget was essentially just trying out different AMD parts and seeing whichone had the best balance of power and low BoM. Think of PC gamers. They get to pick and decide which parts they want to add to their PC. They don't actually create their own CPU and GPU.

Microsoft had to create a large part of the tech that goes into the Xbone because the eSRAM and move engines bullshit is unconventional. No one else is doing any R&D on it, so they had to pay for it out of their own pockets. That's why the R&D budget was so high. In the end, SONY still came up with a much more powerful machine that's also much more efficient both in terms of power usage and memory utilization.

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@xhawk27 said:

@I_can_haz said:

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@edwardecl said:

“History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle." - Microsoft (I think it was a Don Mattrick quote)

So using their own logic, PS4 is close to winning.

I know the Wii reached it first but the first HD console last gen to reach 10 million was the Xbox 360.

and it still came in last place lol.

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

LOL... Still living in the past... AHAHAHAHAHA... You're just like some whore 80-year-old who was pretty when she was 20 but can't accept that she's now an unwanted, wrinkly hag.

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@I_can_haz said:

@xhawk27 said:

So I guess MS won the HD race last gen. Also if the PS3 wasn't sold as a blu-ray player that I bet counted for more than 10 million units the PS3 would have been done for.

So much butthurt and shitty excuses. BTW 360 came in last place lastgen despite launching a year earlier than PS3 and being $200 for a significant amount of time. Let that sink in a bit and you'll realize why Xbone doesn't stand a chance this gen. They botched their launch and came out more expensive with the weaker console this gen, it's no wonder they are getting destroyed. When you realize that XPOSbone is pretty much dead outside the US you'll see why a PS3-style comeback is impossible for Xbone. Nicaragua and China won't save the XPOSBone this time lems.

3 Million PS4s shipped >>>> XPOSBone + 360's 1.1 million

LOL... Excellent ownage. Also, XBL is a fucking wasteland now. Everyone is on PSN. Massive amount of money they lost in lower subscribers. It also reduces the amount of multi-console buyers, since very few want to pay for both GOLD and PS+. Who would have thought that MS's own greedy practice is biting them in the ass? I just love poetic justice.

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No matter how much parity happens, the PS4 is still more capable than XB1 by quite a margin. Just stop lol.

And how much does that matter when you can't experience this? The Xbox One has so many more features that PS4 doesn't have, that's much more important.

Never said otherwise. Just making an observation that PS4 will always be more powerful than XB1. That's it. Does it bother you? PS2 was by far the least powerful of it's generation, and look how that turned out. Power is but a piece of the puzzle.

It doesn't bother me, I'm in IT (last year computer science), and I always believe in the rapid improvements of tech. I think both consoles will just rely on "the cloud" eventually, within 4-5 years.

And I believe that companies should use their money carefully. How could you spend $3 billion and create a vastly inferior machine than someone who spent $5 million in R&D. It makes no sense.

We don't know how that 3 billion is divided, now do we? Maybe 1 billion went to Azure, and because Xbox One uses Azure, they count it as R&D costs... Or maybe (misterxmedia theory), we don't know everything about the Xbox One, and there is still an NDA, and suddenly out of nowhere we get amazing powers... Or maybe Microsoft just loves to burn cash... We will never know, until Microsoft or an ex-employee dares to talk about it. The question is, do we really care? We love games, let's game.

A former AMD employee already told us that MS spent $3 billion on just the APU. The total project including all the marketing and review bribing probably cost over $10 billion.

Microsoft is crying about it. They expected to sell 500 million consoles. LOL... Even SONY wasn't this delusional at the start of last gen.

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lmao this will flop harder than PS Home

Can't flop as much as Xbone did.

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@FastRobby said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@FastRobby said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

No matter how much parity happens, the PS4 is still more capable than XB1 by quite a margin. Just stop lol.

And how much does that matter when you can't experience this? The Xbox One has so many more features that PS4 doesn't have, that's much more important.

Never said otherwise. Just making an observation that PS4 will always be more powerful than XB1. That's it. Does it bother you? PS2 was by far the least powerful of it's generation, and look how that turned out. Power is but a piece of the puzzle.

It doesn't bother me, I'm in IT (last year computer science), and I always believe in the rapid improvements of tech. I think both consoles will just rely on "the cloud" eventually, within 4-5 years.

And I believe that companies should use their money carefully. How could you spend $3 billion and create a vastly inferior machine than someone who spent $5 million in R&D. It makes no sense.

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I said it before, and I'll say it again. The only way for MS to rebound from their current pisspoos state is to remove multiplayer paywall.

Online gaming is a fucking wasteland on the Xbone. Everyone would rather sub get PS+.

Of course, doing that would forego billions in potential revenue and profits, but that's the only way to save the Xbox brand. Unfortunately, MS lacks patience and dedication. If you asked MS if they wanted $10 today or $10,000 tomorrow, they'd pick the first option.

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@Crypt_mx said:

@farrell2k said:

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http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/07/21/destinys-first-ever-1080p-xbox-one-footage-ign-first?watch

X1 beta is 900p, 30fps vs 1080p 30fps that will be equaled out at launch.

Yeah so there's that. Everyone was expecting some superior Sony version, but as of now it seems parity has been achieved. Thoughts?

Parity has been achieved by watering down the ps4 version, yes, of course.

Lol if believing that makes you feel better about your console purchase then sure.

I don't own a ps4 or an xb1. How do you think you make things equal when you have two different hardware capabilities? You use the weaker system as a base.

I own a PS4 and an X1, and even though the hardware difference exits, it is not enough to make a difference if the devs are good enough. The consoles are too similar in terms of real world performance, not raw numbers. I do not think they coded the PS4 version knowing they had to hold it back, they just created it as they wanted it. Without the Xbox power boost from the Kinect it would be a 900p v 1080p difference, that's how it would have launched. But with the power, the systems are nearly the same.

What do you mean "if the devs are good enough"? Hardware is fixed. It's not like they're going to be able to hire a magician to make the xb1 magically as powerful as the ps4. You know nothing of programming, that much is obvious.

That's not what I said at all. The Xbox is harder to code for because of Esram use, but the consoles are so similar in overall real world power that the games can be even, or almost. I never said anything about a magician to make it as powerful, I know more about programming than most people on here. I've been saying it's not enough of a power difference to matter, not that it doesn't exist. It's all numbers, the PS4 and the X1 are identical mid range computers in practice.

I'm done talking to someone who is as ignorant as you, good day.

This is a whole load of bullshit. Yeah, the Xbone is harder to code for than the PS4 is, but that is more than compensated through the army of top coders that 3rd parties use to get their games up to snuff on the Xbone. 3rd parties let their shittiest 3 coders do a shit portjob on the PS4 and rely on the PS4's brute strength to bulldoze through their unoptimized code.

Devs use every single optimization trick to get the Xbone running "acceptably". The Xbone is already hitting its peak. The PS4 has barely begun utilizing its full power. When a 3rd party like Kojima studios tries to atleast utilize PS4's full power, THEN you'll see big differences. 720p on Xbone vs 1080p on PS4. PS4 runs at stable 60 FPS while Xbone runs at 30-60 variable FPS. Xbone has vastly lower graphical settings.

Until 3rd parties stop their parity bullshit, you'll never see the true power gap between the two consoles, and that's what MS would rather want. They rather you think the Xbone isn't that much weaker than the PS4 when the two are generations apart in power. It's sad, but all the more reason to cheer that Xbox is failing. MS is a bad influence on the gaming industry and it's best they leave.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

'3.5m PS3+4 shipped vs 1.1m 360/XB1 in the same quarter' - wow as a future xbox owner this is great news. i hope ms keep getting their ass kicked, they coasted towards the end of last gen but with sony pounding them this time around they are really gona have to pull out all the stops

LOL... MS is a quitter. They ain't gonna fight if the odds aren't in their favor. They're gonna abandon the Xbone and release the Xbox TWO in 2-3 years.

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whatta joke lemspot are. they always bias against game of the year sony games all the time. this is a scandal that's why they laying off people because they bias. they need to cut off every one with m$ in they pockets so sony games can finally get a fair shake. tlou is the best remake n set the bar how u make remakes not like halo chief collection. tlou is not a flop lulz lems just jelly coz they will never have a game of the year like godstation! SWAG!!!

Excellent point. GS took MS's bribe money and had reviewers take off 2 pts for every PS exclusive. But GS underestimates internet users' intelligence. We see right through GS's bullshit and so GS loses traffic. With lower traffic, GS asks MS for more funding, but MS doesn't want to fund GS anymore because GS has low visitor count. In conclusion, GS is fucked.

Yes, that totally explains why they gave MGS4 a 10 and UC2 a 9.5 and UC3 a 9 (both from Tom McShea), and have given GOTY awards to MGS4, Demon's Souls, and Journey. Makes perfect since.

MGS4 was a 12/10, UC2 was an 11.5/10 and UC3 was an 11/10. Take off 2 and you get those scores.