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@mrbojangles25 said:

@shadow_cse: omfg you made my day.

If they hold on to TOR material, I will be so happy. There is so much to do with it and, imo, is a far richer setting than found in Episodes I-VII

There's no sense in them tossing aside TOR or KOTOR stuff. It predates Episode 1. Scrapping post VI stuff makes sense, but just out and slashing the wealth of Star Wars EU that predates the films? It would reduce their profits, if only very marginally, and we know Disney hates any reduction of profit.

But you know what would be really cool? If Disney pressured Bioware (which I know is unlikely and seemingly impossible, but in my nerdy dreams it is feasible) to give us KOTOR III instead of wasting money on TOR. KOTOR > TOR by a million miles.

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#2  Edited By battlefront23
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I think the last OTcars I participated in was 2009. :P

Will be interesting how it turns out this year.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Blockbusters.

I generally expect nothing amazing from them, but I do expect a good time and they generally deliver.

With indies, I expect good acting, great plot, excellent writing, and unique directing. Generally you don't get any of that, or worse, they try way too hard to do something new and it just ruins everything.

I think somewhere along the line I got the wrong idea about indie movies in my head. They're much better now, though, as they're becoming much less pretentious.

Wholly agreed. The best indie films seem to put a emphasis on story and characters, then the indie/"original" tricks of filming, rather than the inverse. If a new gimmick or style obscures or interrupts the storytelling, it has to be scrapped. The best indie films use those gimmicky moments to enhance the storyline, rather than detracting from it.

One of my favorite examples of this is in this scene of 500 Days of Summer, which still holds up in my mind as a damn good indie romantic comedy (dramady?).

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^In this, the main character Tom is in the "hopeless" stage of breaking up, in that any interaction with his ex may or may not prompt them to get back together and ride off into the sunset. It was painful, literally, how accurate of a scene it was, and was a clever approach to show what that cognitive dissonance is like.

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@Stesilaus said:

Yet Japan fares pretty well in terms of economic vitality, standards of living, safety, low crime rate etc., so the sexualization of children obviously isn't as ruinous to a society as Western legislators and social commentators would have us believe.

There is a lot of underreporting of crime in Japan, especially things sexually related.

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@N30F3N1X said:

You're the one who's shitting on what people like because it's the cool thing to do here kid.

I've done no such thing. Not once on here have I expressed a dislike for anything aside shitting on what people like, actually.

I have stated precisely what I dislike and I haven't "taken a sh!t" on anything else in the entire Star Wars franchise.

Precisely? You said it's a shit idea because morality doesn't work that way. How is that precise?

"explain it"

If that's how far your understanding of the over two millennia of philosophy we've had goes, it's no wonder you think the ridiculous and whimsical switches from light side to dark side are a good idea. I'm not going to bother explaining anything else about this just like I wouldn't explain bremsstrahlung or molecular orbitals to a guy who doesn't know how sums work.

I never presented my understanding of philosophy, rather I am asking you to explain yours.

And as far as good villains go, both Darth Traya and Darth Nihilus are good villains. Reason enough for them to stomp any villain the movies (or BioWare) came up with is that they have purpose in their villainy, as opposed to the "moar power" mantra the aforementioned villains adhered to.

Yeah, they are good villains, who have probably (at least in Traya's case) hours worth more of dialogue and exposition than Kylo Ren. It is not a fair comparison because a game's storyline can develop WAY more than a two hour film can.

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@N30F3N1X said:
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@N30F3N1X:

How is that weak AT ALL? They literally took the concept from the creator and expanded on in a way which the creator himself could not do in three movies. They outshine the good idea by making it even better than the author of the good idea could. If you wanted another Vader, then yeah, you'll be brutally disappointed. And then again, Rey herself said the most insightful thing about Ren to Ren: that he is afraid he will never measure up to the legacy of his grandfather.

Did you even read what I said? Like, AT ALL? My point was precisely that it wasn't a good idea. It's a sh!t idea, because morality simply doesn't work that way.

The only reason Kylo Ren outshines Vader as a villain is because Vader couldn't be any worse as a villain. He's neck deep in a childish representation of a "good/bad" dichotomy and on top of that he's a wimp that can't walk to the bathroom without asking daddy Sidious first. Kylo also suffers from the second problem but at least he (rightfully so) makes a mockery of what the light and dark sides are.

How does morality work then? Explain it.

Tell me of a good villain then, and explain why he is a good villain. Otherwise, again, let's just shit on what people like because it's the cool thing to do...

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@sSubZerOo:

I've loved KOTOR since launch. I am well aware of the similarities, which are actually mainly cosmetic.

How is he not new?

How is not deep or insightful to be riddled with confusion upon having a primarily evil grandfather, a primarily good uncle, and a fairly ambivalent-leaning-good father and so not knowing where to land yourself? It makes A LOT of sense for him to be confused, and, not to mention, we know little to nothing about the backstory of how he ended up upon a darker trajectory in his journey. Whether or not it was believable, is again, totally subjective, as most of the people I've talked to actually found his character quite compelling.

Again, let's just shit on what people and critics like, because that's the cool thing to do.

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@N30F3N1X:

How is that weak AT ALL? They literally took the concept from the creator and expanded on in a way which the creator himself could not do in three movies. They outshine the good idea by making it even better than the author of the good idea could. If you wanted another Vader, then yeah, you'll be brutally disappointed. And then again, Rey herself said the most insightful thing about Ren to Ren: that he is afraid he will never measure up to the legacy of his grandfather.

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@N30F3N1X:

You do realize it's a two hour movie, right? A lot of times, the story will feel rushed because they have to tell it to you in a fast span of time. But also, I disagree with your point anyway, because it was not a fast transition from good to bad, rather it was all over the place because the character himself is all over the place.

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#10  Edited By battlefront23
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@Allicrombie:

One thing Abrams said he retained from Lucas's original vision is the tension within a single person of light and dark, and how easily one becomes evil. You can clearly see Abrams respected and expanded on that with Kylo's character. Like you, I believe Ren will eventually return to the light, but as for Rey turning evil, I'm not sure they could do something that gutsy. It would be interesting for sure, but thus far she has no penchant for darkness. Not really, aside from her maybe finishing Ren off if the planet had not torn. We will see.