ok saying that they were mediocre was dumb. i apologize. but they weren't the doom of their time if you get what am saying. and the genre changed completely with the new games. hell even bioshock isn't as big of a deal as fallout nowdays.

i get what some of you are saying. its a good game with great aspects. but idk. i still don't buy thats how a franchise became so big with 1 game. was it heavily advertised or promoted or something.

@SOedipus:

yeah but this popular. I'd argue that its more popular than half life and people are way too fucking aggressive when it comes to that game. something must have happened a long the way and am on a mission to find what it is. there are a lot of great games you don't just become that big for no reason especially when you're not an online shooter.

How did fallout become such a big franchise. call of duty became a big franchise because of the beginning of online. it wasn't all that big back in the day. but I don't understand how did fallout become such a big deal. all games up to 3 were mediocre and they sold poorly it just doesn't happen that a franchise suddenly blowed up?

was it one of those games heavily played by youtubers at the early days of youtube what popularized it?

please only people that played the game answer

So thats a mission in Jak 2. holy fucking shit. how am I supposed to do this? i spent a whole hour trying to do this and i wasn't able to do more than do. all i can do i slide to increase my speed (there is like 3 speeds. slow, medium, fast) but it wouldn't fucking work. sometimes i went over the well and he wouldn't through the bomb. this shit is just random. how do they fucking expect kids to do this? in some parts of this game I've pulled miracles to fucking finish all these "mission impossible" missions. what can i do here.? and 2 FUCKING MINUTES TO DO THIS. TWOOOO?

@Kriact: '

HAVEL IS AN END GAME OPPONENT. HAVEL IS AN END GAME OPPONENT. REALLY?

@riou7:

well. you said it. NG+ is significantly harder. over the sky. way more pre-set invasions. the AI seemed better. about 2.5x the damage and even more enemies. not to mention other additions. I know why you see it harder and I understand. as you played DSI. DS2 is similar and thus you somewhat got used to the game mechanics. I struggled a lot with dark souls in the beginning. took me some 25 hours to kill the first mini-boss. havel the rock . that was a badass one. but I struggled as much in Dark Souls 2 in the beginning. as i was more experienced i felt that i would struggle less if it was easier. but in DS2. bosses are easier for the most part. I think we say that because of Smough and Ornstein. there was certainly nothing like that in DSII. maybe smelter demon was close. but not as tough for sure. but the toughest boss in both games is the ancient dragon in DSII. even though its optional.

I know. Nutshell. not nushell.

really. it is harder than the other souls game but its fun. am on NG++

and Riou7 no its not. its harder than the first DS game. maybe bosses in the first DS games were harder. but overall. DS2 is harder.

I am a Dark Souls veteran. played over 250 hours in DKS. and now 100 in DSK2. mostly single player. but when I try to win in PVP. I pretty much get my ass kicked every time. especially when I am the one that makes summons. I just PVPed a guy and he was running. I swear. at iron keep. I was a hit away from killing him. and he ran so fast. i could only see something moving. he crossed all the way to the alonne knights near the gate in about 0.5 second. i couldnt believe it. anyways. is there something to do that or was that just hacking. anyways lets forget about that. i am a heavy armor user. i use shield and sword. but when i PVP. just like i said i get my ass handed to the opponent every time. i tried light armor and rolling and everything but i always lose in a way that makes no sense. little weapons that deal more damage than my dual wielding. or someone with light armor gets like 20% damage with my +5 curved dragon sword dual wielded with fire weapon. i dont understand. and i really dont understand how much defense do you get in this game. I have over 1200 physical defense in all categories and i get shitted with katanas. I mean c'mon. katanas with thick armor. they do little damage damage when i use them on armors. the biggest problem in the game is rolling. a god damn human being cannot roll that fast or that many times. whats the point of heavy weapons if you can dodge them every single time. i get people that will dodge every single of my attacks. hell if i play like a coward and attack them right when they spawn and they have no health i still lose. am really trying so hard n this game's multiplayer. i didnt get into the original's PVP a lot because of you know. hackers spamming pursuers. that was pretty much it in the first game. but this one i just dont get. i dont think they had PVP in mind when they designed the game. they pretty much designed all of this for single player use and then created multiplayer without balancing out the weapons for it. hell i was getting hit by weapons and am completley not even in the path of the attack. am 3 ft away from the weapon and i get hit. most PVPers memorized every single glitch in this game and they use it to their advantage. my biggest problem so far is POISE. in the first game POISE WORKS. IN THIS GAME. IT DOESN'T WORK. NO WORK. i was playing naked with 10 poise or so. and i was being stunned for the same length and as easy as if i was playing with havel's set with that poise ring. same thing it does NOTHING. i get stunned by katansa and daggers and i have about 150 POISE. seriously From Software. did you even think about this. and magic attacks kill on impact. 1 hit kill. just think about this. if an attack has more range. way more range. what should we do. make the range attack MORE DAMAGE. exactly. RIGHT FROM SOFTWARE. NO. how this makes sense? it doesn't. its out of logic. hexes will kill you in 1 hit hell even if you have the maximum dark + magic defense possible in this game. well whats the point of defeness if its useless. why do we have this crap. and why are you allowing level 600 players to fight me level 200. and what is it with magic bonus. IT GETS CRAZY. you can roll your way out of an arrow and its being shot from 10 ft away. how does that makes sense. why did you prioritize rolling in this game. in the last game. it was pretty important. but in this one. if you don't roll. your pretty much dead. and why does the player gets 0 damage if my hit still touches his body but hes in rolling position. why did you make this GOD MODE rolling. your literally on GOD MODE if you roll. pyromancy is completely shit. you can get out of the way before the attack even starts. because you decided to make us wait 2 seconds before a pyro attack initiates. its useless. why is it in the game then. just remove it. heck a cpl of days ago i used bleed and poison katanas maxed on a guy with light armors. i think i hit him 5 consecutive times with each. and no bleed damage occured neither magic. wtf. how many hits do i need. the weapon had about 120 bleed and poison in the other and he didnt get any. the best anti bleed and posion + the ring does not give you enough to have that much bleed + poison defense.

and why is it possible to use 2 HEAVY weapons on each hand. so you cant use a 50 str weapon with 49 str and you can use two heavy weapons with 50 str. DOES THAT MAKES SENSE? absolutely not.

AND THE BIGGEST Pain is hitboxes. its probably 5 ft away from each part of your body. its not the size of your charazter. its a cpl of feet away in each direction apparently. and riposte and backstabs do crazy damage. I was getting around 90% damage the other day. SERIOUSLY. why don't we have a mode called BACKSTABS mode. without the lag i wouldnt mind still crazy. but if someone is going to backstab me and they're standing 10 ft away thats crazy. and the caestus in the most retarded piece of shit ever. its strong attack where it counters your attack and then punches you while your on the ground? WTF is that. give me a way to counter an attack thats ainmation is 4 seconds while am on the GROUND. and why do i get stunned by a caestus and i have 150 poise. WTF

that was a lot to say. and it makes me feel better. i know i will get a cpl of "git gud" comments that they're nothing but magic and hex spammers but thats ok. and yeah read all of it before you post a hate comment.