ok so cloud just means available servers then. i guess they call it cloud as a marketing scheme then?

@Oozyrat im hoping sony improves its multiplayer service, especially if they want us to pay for it. i have no doubt the xbone will have good online tho.

well i didnt notice this on my 360 so im happy. also glad i didnt download the new firmware for my ps3, that would have been ugly

@Vegamyster cracks me up everytime

@santoron well if its not some downgraded version (kind of like comparing BF3 on 360 to PC versions) then i will consider it.

they kept mentioning how this game is supposed to use the xbox ones new "features" so i dont know what that means for 360

@Earthen80 @almossbb unfortunatly i dont have a gaming pc, im also more of (and always will be) a console gamer.

unfortunate. also its too bad i wont be playing titanfall until microsoft fixes the xbox ones issues

@ooblah @almossbb @schmity1978 yeah i agree lol. those aspects of the console are what prevent me from considering a purchase (for now). i do hope they get rid of that nonsense though as it would be better for all of us, i know they affect me alot since my internet isnt always reliable and i love buying used games, as well as lending/borrowing games with friends.

@apnance @Busta @almossbb guess i can agree with that alittle. he always rates games lower than others, and after i play a game myself i tend to disagree with alot of his review. but hey thats how he review games and they shouldnt really affect us as much as the people raging here.

@ooblah @pmubdeeps @schmity1978 i guess im nearly the same as you. 60 bucks isnt terrible but i do feel like im waisting it when i can play free online on my ps3, but i pay it anyway just to play with my friends on xbox. also it does have exclusives but i dont feel like they are as relevant, besides halo and gears i didnt feel like the other exclusives were system sellers. anyways in the end you are right it would be nice to just enjoy the best of both consoles.