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#1 WuShogun212
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@Fenriswolf:

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To the gamers making death threats, I wish they wouldn't but I understand the rage. When "we" the average gamers are not being heard we take out our frustration on people over the internet, some are presenting great arguments and others are making unjustifiable death threats. Just like in any society where the people are not being represented there is a protest or a revolt against the person causing the injustice or the system who are supporting them. All the media is focused on is the gamers who are making threats not the gamers who are making rational intelligent counter points to issues like feminist attacks on gaming. In the message you guys posted in the news section you said you "refuse to give oxygen to a disturbing minority who seek to use this debate as an excuse for their own appalling actions", but that's not true, you would rather post about gamers threatening the life of someone than reporting gamers making intelligent points, you promote one for clicks but ignore the other. You're not only giving them oxygen you're feeding them a hot meal and running a nice warm bath for them too. Women, journalist, and developers wouldn't be getting attacked if the gaming media presented both sides fairly, but they don't, so instead of informing people you are just adding more ignorance to an all ready ignorant filled community.

In other words, you're engaging in victim blaming. Cultural products, be it gaming, music, films, or films, gets criticized all the time by a variety of different positions. Hell, I enjoy watching certain movies with hyper-masculine heroes slaughtering hundreds of mooks, and there are all sorts of criticism on its gender, race, and class contents. I read such critiques, and still chose to enjoy such films regardless, because I understand that acknowledging someone's else's position doesn't have to come at a cost of your own. If you're so insecure about your beliefs that an article makes you lash out and send people death threats, then the problem lies with you, not the other person.

I completely agree but the problem still stands, which I was emphasizing in my comment, that websites like Gamespot give focus ONLY on the people who are sending death threats, and never focusing on the gamers who bring an intelligent counter argument to the table. Which in turn leads less informed people to believe that all gamers are making threats and that the gaming community as a whole is a commune of filthy immoral degenerates. If they post a video from Anita talking about how sexist and misogynistic games can be then they should post a video (one of thousands of them) arguing against that opinion to give the readers two sides of this (what I hope it to be one day) debate, because right now it is not a debate, but a one sided onslaught without any resistance. I'm definitely not blaming the victims of death threats, I'm putting the blame with the people who have a power to educate a sizable portion of the gaming community, the journalists and editors of gaming websites like this one. We all know that the gaming community can get a little..."passionate" about subjects like feminism, but instead of adding fuel to the fire like Gamespot and other websites do by only reporting one side, they should use this opportunity to inform people on both sides, so they can see that there is resistance being presented instead of being completely ignored, which would lead to less anger because they know that it is a fair conversation.

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#2 WuShogun212
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I don't condone attacking anybody online or offline, but here is the problem I have with the whole gamers raging and/trolling people which seem to be mostly feminists pushing to improve the perception of woman in video games, YOU as a video game journalistic platform should not be taking one side of an issue such as feminist expressing ill informed "facts" on an art that we all love. As journalist you should report both sides and let's be honest the fear that most (if not all) these gaming sites have of feminists is sad, you don't even want to risk being in the line of their fire. You are more than willing to report/promote a new video that a feminist made about how video games are sexist or misogynistic but you won't even dare report the counter argument to these accusations. All we want is fair and balanced gaming journalism and not have to worry about an agenda being pushed or an article that presents a one sided criticism. I have yet to see a popular gaming website stand up and face/challenge the criticism games have been getting from feminists.

To the gamers making death threats, I wish they wouldn't but I understand the rage. When "we" the average gamers are not being heard we take out our frustration on people over the internet, some are presenting great arguments and others are making unjustifiable death threats. Just like in any society where the people are not being represented there is a protest or a revolt against the person causing the injustice or the system who are supporting them. All the media is focused on is the gamers who are making threats not the gamers who are making rational intelligent counter points to issues like feminist attacks on gaming. In the message you guys posted in the news section you said you "refuse to give oxygen to a disturbing minority who seek to use this debate as an excuse for their own appalling actions", but that's not true, you would rather post about gamers threatening the life of someone than reporting gamers making intelligent points, you promote one for clicks but ignore the other. You're not only giving them oxygen you're feeding them a hot meal and running a nice warm bath for them too. Women, journalist, and developers wouldn't be getting attacked if the gaming media presented both sides fairly, but they don't, so instead of informing people you are just adding more ignorance to an all ready ignorant filled community.

Gamespot should be a spot for gamers to come and get fair news on the hobby they absolute love, not a cesspool for imbalanced promotion of professional wolf crying "activists". Though I don't agree with the method of being heard I do share the same feeling of disappointment in the current journalism gaming has. I know its a long post but I think its important.