[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="criinok"]

Well I suppose I had a bad choice of words when I said that. It would make it more glorious, but I meant that him being able to avoid it also means that it was pointless of him to do. I have no idea why Jesus had to die to save mankind from sin, except for the sake of heavy symbolism.

criinok

Yep, he could've converted everyone in the world with the snap of his fingers... But I guess God doesn't love us enough to give us the easy way out to heaven, he wants to give his own creations the possibility of going to hell... Even though he loves us with his whole being ;)

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I've actually often thought about this idea. People throughout history have viciously attacked the Jews as the "ones who killed Jesus", but I do ask: why? If Jesus hadn't been crucified, then his entire time on Earth (according to Christian doctrine) would have had its purpose unfulfilled. The ones who crucified him were the ones who fulfilled the prophecy and allowed him to become the savior of humanity, not the ones he just talked to for a brief period of time.

GazaAli

[QUOTE="cd_rom"]

[QUOTE="criinok"]

This is a very cool concept, and one that Christians will have to double look at before fumbling around for an answer. I never got why Jesus's sacrifice on the cross was so "glorious" when he knew it was going to happen the whole time, and could've avoided the whole thing altogether.

criinok

I would think that this would make it more glorious. He could have easily avoided it, but chose not to.

Well I suppose I had a bad choice of words when I said that. It would make it more glorious, but I meant that him being able to avoid it also means that it was pointless of him to do. I have no idea why Jesus had to die to save mankind from sin, except for the sake of heavy symbolism.

[QUOTE="SuprmanLuvHandl"]Wasn't there a book they found called The Gospel of Judas where it said Jesus told him to do it? Or was that all BS?cd_rom

There is the growing belief that Judas and Jesus worked together in the "betrayal". I even think that Judas mentions that Jesus asked him to do it in the Book of Judas.

cd_rom

There is no complicated answer to this and actually the argument can be applied to any figure in Jesus's life.

Jesus knew the entire time Judas would betray him yet Jesus did nothing to stop him. So by allowing Judas to betray him, Judas triggered a chain of events that would eventually lead to Jesus dying for the sins of man.

From what I've seen and read Gore did technically win both votes but because of the controversy in Florida he ended up bowing out, probably thinking he would just be the better man. Instead we have 2 wars, we killed ethanol and the hydrogen fuel cell, nuclear power is demonized, and almost every system in our nation is broken.

Well what sets Fox News apart is they won't report on certain things. Usually if there is a gay pride parade or rally or what have you they totally ignore it while every other station has some form of input on it. I like MSNBC personally but mass media in general is evil, you should watch it like a soap opera or switch it up so you don't become totally brainwashed.

I wish we could nix political handles being used as insults. There is a campaign ad running in my area now and it literally says "...that's really liberal..." like it's a damned crime to be conservative or liberal. Why don't we just go back McCarthyism zomg the reds er rather the blues this time.

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

[QUOTE="Tiefster"

My supreme ugliness :(

ShadowJax04

Only thing i agree with is that your hair looks a little ruined?