[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]The Bill of Rights includes the First Amendment. Constitution applies to federal and state levels. This is an incontrovertible fact. No state in the Union can contradict the Constitution.Genetic_Code
You're ignoring my point. The Establishment Clause is not a right. Yes, it's in an amendment that defines five certain rights, but it itself is not a right. Yes it is a right. It entails these five rights within it; it can't be separated from the right to privacy, for example.
[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"] The Establishment Clause has nothing to do with rights. Right to free speech Right to freedom of religious expression Right to privacy All these are entailed in the Establishment Clause. And it DOES apply to state and local government.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I'm pretty sure that the establishment clause pertains to state and local governments as well. Genetic_Code
It does. The idea that the constitution only applies to the federal level is patently absurd. What you're thinking of is the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which grants rights not a government policy reserved only for Congress as laid out clearly by the Establishment Clause. The Bill of Rights includes the First Amendment. Constitution applies to federal and state levels. This is an incontrovertible fact. No state in the Union can contradict the Constitution.
[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="alexside1"] And how this law any way shape or form forces an atheist to pray? It doesn't have to force them to pray. If it serves no secular purpose, it's unconstitutional. Learn the law, plz. uhh How about I give you a no?Lemon v. Kurtzman There's this little thing. It's called the Lemon Test.
[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="alexside1"] Answer my question, first then I'll answer your question. Not just freedom of religion, the establishment clause has been interpreted as freedom FROM religion as well. And how this law any way shape or form forces an atheist to pray? It doesn't have to force them to pray. If it serves no secular purpose, it's unconstitutional. Learn the law, plz.
[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]What exactly is the big deal? He's doing nothing constitutionally wrong and he's not harming anyone. The separation of church and state only applies to Congress, not state governors.HoolaHoopMan
I'm pretty sure that the establishment clause pertains to state and local governments as well. It does. The idea that the constitution only applies to the federal level is patently absurd.
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