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This is why I like Turn 10. They've acknowledged that the grind is tedious and are taking steps to remedy it. Not only that, longtime Forza players like myself were rewarded with a few million credits that'll be waiting for me when I get the game. Good for them.


It'll be interesting to see how Polyphony Digital responds to the backlash to their microtransaction system after this.

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GameSpot doesn't give out .5s anymore so the only score that could beat Forza 5 is a 10 and well, I highly doubt it will score that high. I'm guessing a 7 or 8, personally but hey, it might tie Forza 5 with a 9!

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You think this game is going to get a 10? Good luck!

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What a load of crap. He bid on a listing for a photo of an Xbox One, even though he himself acknowledged that the listing explicitly stated it was for a photo of an Xbox One and not only does he get his money back (due to eBay policy, I've heard, which is a load of nonsense) but he gets a free console out of it?


Geez, I need to start turning my brain off more often and maybe I can be rewarded for my stupidity as well.

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Yep. That's why every single Forza Motorsport game released this generation has scored higher than Gran Turismo 5, right? Forza Motorsport lapped Gran Turismo a long time ago and Gran Turismo is in no position to catch up. According to Metacritic, Gran Turismo 6 is sitting on an 81. Congrats. You've managed to tie the worst rated entry in the franchise (Forza Motorsport 5). Good luck trying to catch your last gen competition (Forza 4).

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Did I say anything to counter that? I said it's marketing, which it is. I never said anything bad about the drivers. They're clearly excellent drivers who won the opportunity to race through this Sony, Gran Turismo, Nissan and Polyphony Digital sponsored competition. And if Microsoft, Turn 10 and Audi got together to sponsor a similar contest, similar results could be achieved. Why? Because my point was that Forza's physics are, at the very least, every bit as good as Gran Turismo's and by most accounts, much, much better. That was the point you've been trying to avoid.

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Right, that's why Gran Turismo logos are slapped all over the series and drivers and vehicles? It may have been an ongoing TV series and competition but at the end of the day, it's all about marketing. It certainly looks great to be able to say a high performing professional racing driver was groomed using your racing simulation, doesn't it?

Yeah, it's great that it did produce some great racing drivers but at the end of the day, it's marketing. All I'm doing is calling it what it is.

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That's about as likely as Gran Turismo coming to the Xbox One, IE, not at all.

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I know exactly what it is. It was a marketing promotion wrapped in the guise of a contest to determine who was the best GT driver in the world. Again, if the exact same contest were put on by Turn 10, they could have groomed a pro racing driver just as GT Academy did.

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I love the superiority complex GT fans have. "Only kids play Forza!" "Forza is for the ADHD generation!" "Forza has arcade physics!" You guys make up some of the most amazing lies to convince yourself of GT's superiority. Your game doesn't have a fully featured livery editor so by default it doesn't add anything meaningful to the genre, right? GT6 has microtransactions to complement its grind but of course only Forza is bad for having microtransactions along with a grind too, right?

GT Academy was a marketing promotion. If a similar promotion was held for Forza 4 or Forza 5, you could certainly see a driver being groomed from Forza because of the fact that you guys keep forgetting.


Forza Motorsport 4 and 5 are more realistic than GT6. GT still lacks torque steer, decent mechanical and cosmetic damage modeling, doesn't properly simulate lift off oversteer in non MR and RR drive cars, they still haven't gotten the tire physics right and much more, including that awful, awful audio work they've done which makes beautiful V8 and V12 powered cars sound like vacuum cleaners and has the most grating burning rubber sound I've ever heard that hasn't been changed since the PS1 days. Embarrassing.

Even side step, a simple physics simulation, does not happen in GT5 or 6. Try it for yourself. Take a high powered rear wheel drive car like the Corvette ZR1 onto a track and gun it from a standstill without touching the wheel. In GT, it will launch perfectly straight, every time. In Forza, it will step out to the side, like it's supposed to and like it would in real life.


Get real. You guys need to get over the myth that Forza has arcade physics. It doesn't. It's more realistic than GT ever was and that's just Forza 4 I'm talking about. Forza 5 is on another level.