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#1 Symphonycometh
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Games that just leads you into a "controllable movie" like heavy rain, catherine, etc etc never interests me. Netflix is 70 times better than playing those games. But thats just me.

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^ KH2's fanservice over plot makes me prefer Versus XIII. The plot nearly stayed the same until the final hours.
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These conversations are far from over, so I'm bringing this back to the top. To be political: Versus XIII is the make-it or break it for Enix. If they divide their userbase anymore than they did with XIII, they can expect to join the ranks of lesser JRPG companies sooner than they'd care to admit.
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Relating to the last few posts: The only thing that really annoys me in this regard is when people say the battles play themselves in FF XIII, and complain about the "auto battle" command. When that is simply far from true after just a few hours. Sure, that is a long time for a game to really start, and I understand if people complain about that, but once the game truly begins, hitting auto battle, and ignoring paradigms, will not get you anywhere.

Aside from this, every complaint I hear is very leginamte, not to say I agree, I enjoyed the game. But it's just a different opinion.

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It's impossible to beat the game just by using auto-battle or "pressing just one button". Anyone that says otherwise is a straight up liar. I won't even fancy any other way of thought.
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Boss fights does not make the path any shorter. I am thoroughly happy if you find the scrollbar map not being "too long"....But there's no way I'm going to play through XIII again anytime soon *just* because of how long the maps are compared to any other linear game. (Also why it was hated on in mass) But it seems like the rest of your points are heavily relying on the preference-law. So I'm going to brush all of that to the side and return to the reason I posted: Posters are trying to say they don't understand how others could dislike aspects of the game. I gave ample reasons why it's more than baffling that someone cannot comprehend someone else's way of thinking outside their own. And in case you're wondering if I can get behind why people like XIII, yes, I do understand why and how people can enjoy XIII. That's why I gave it a B-grade. For anyone who doesn't groan or shake their head at the "Seen this all before" nature of the game, it's a pretty package, generic-tale told decently (or GREAT if it's your first time), great music, and has interesting/new gameplay. To say it has anything else nearing fantastic would show their preferences are based around a smaller sampling plate than mine. That isn't something I particularly would call a good thing since that means listening to their opinion is similar to me listening to someone recommending me melted ice cream because they've never experienced the best ice cream that has not melted into something icky. XIII is very much like melted ice cream that froze up accordingly near the minute.
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[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]"Did you really expect FFXIII to be like P4? " And right away I feel less than compelled to respond to you completely. Unless when you asked me this, you meant "Be better than P4" rather than what I'm thinking you meant: "Be like P4's gameplay/style/ect"bloodling

You are the one who brought "P4 quality" in the discussion. Again, it's only a matter of personal preference.

P4's quality: (Lets put aside the fact that the story was more original in both plot and concept, the characters have an 80+ hour development clocktime, they were universally more relatable than Snow's "WE'RE HEROES" or Hope's "I cannot do it! T_T" , and the fact you weren't going down long hallways for 2/3rds the game. That wouldn't be fair~) You can say the quality is a matter of preference, but I get this feeling that there's a reason P4's ratings creamed XIII's from the critics and users from around the world.

As for the "preference says", I think I'll borrow your logic real quick: Preference means my attitude towards any given topic/object/ect. My "opinion". And the moment you accept that definition in order to keep your preferences an opinion rather than something potentially wrong, you *should* accept my preference just the same. "It's only my preference, yo." Meaning unless you went too far, I didn't. Again, this is only using the "personal preference - don't knock on it" logic. I happen to believe in the philosophy that the weaker opinion is closer to being wrong - hence the reason XIII (universally) didn't get AAA status. In fact metacritics has it close to a C rating for *several* reasons. Because it's a lukewarm game once the "universally accepted" flaws kick in.

Congrats on enjoying the game a lot, but the only way XIII fans have a *chance* at convincing those like me (who gave the game an 8.5) and those who absolutely hated it (a lot) will be to address what we view as flaws and explain to us how going through a level so narrow and long corridor that even vets like myself literally feel a little sick after a while is a good thing. Or how the plot is engaging to the experienced. Or how the initial confusion of Fal'cie, L'cie, Ceith, Pulse L'cie, and Gran Pulse is just a matter of preference rather than a massive presentation flaw. Or little dogs having several, several thousand HP with an estimated victory time averaging 5-10 minutes, knowing you can't flee for whatever inexplicable reason. (Or, why have an Auto-battle? But I suppose that's the most subjective thing I've asked.) I can absolutely go on, but I think I'll just say "Bad games do this sort of thing all the time; FF knows better" If you can spin those into positives, you'll have yourself a discussion.

too long, didn't read: I didn't go too far in explaining why someone could "possibly" dislike aspects of XIII as my original post was responding to. Because there are reasons outside of blind-hate and wanting XIII to be like another game/franchise/ect.

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"Did you really expect FFXIII to be like P4? " And right away I feel less than compelled to respond to you completely. Unless when you asked me this, you meant "Be better than P4" rather than what I'm thinking you meant: "Be like P4's gameplay/style/ect"
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Not surprised; games that don't really hit my fancy often hit the 8 and lower range.
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#9 Symphonycometh
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[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="DrRockso87"]

I wonder how Versus XIII will sell though after the half-a-decade of development time and the awful taste Final Fantasy XIII left in people's mouths.

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Personally, I think it's a great game. I really don't understand all the complaints about this game.

You arent alone.

8.5 gamespot, 8.4 users (Keep in mind the haters that gave it ridiclous 1's, 2's, and 3's)

8.9 IGN, 8.7 users (Keep in mind the haters that gave it ridiclous 1's, 2's, and 3's)

9.25 Gameinformer, 8.75 users (Keep in mind the haters that gave it ridiculous 1's, 2's, and 3's)

There is a reason they are making a sequel.

Some of you are being really cute with the whole "not understanding" card. One thing being, sequels aren't just made because the original was so darn good; it was because they had ample stuff taken out from the original. 1/3rd of the game that was reported? Easy to spruce up and sell out if you ask me...and if you ask the release date. As for why there is criticism, I'll spell it out: Not every gamer is alright with "okay" games. That was what Final Fantasy XIII was. If you're okay with a lukewarm quest, that's plenty good, but for gamers who demand Persona 4 quality out of their RPGs, the "king" of JRPGs sure fell epically short. That isn't to say that it needs to copy P4, obviously. It needs to do its own thing and lead by example. Final Fantasy XIII not only failed to lead the genre, but it basically mocked the progress/maturity JRPGs have tried to reach. If FF does anything else, there will be some justified hate.
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#10 Symphonycometh
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]thread backfired. dont understand why everyone has to hate on chuck norris jokes, seems like its a more popular thing to do than post the actual jokes.

Or maybe we all just grew out of our terrible middle school humor.

How does one grow out of lighthearted humor? Other than other people telling them that it's not funny, that is. =p