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#1 Steyrvolt
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I had to close the tab I opened for that two seconds in. (Sorry.)

The only punk covers I like, are the Me First and the Gimme Gimmes songs.

EDIT: (To the punk fans out there, I'm aware they're just pop-punk, but they're less poppy than most punk out there currently.)

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#2 Steyrvolt
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I went through a... "rough patch" when I first went to university, starting with my friends not being there, to hearing rumors about a girl I used to like OD'ing and almost dying, and I ended up trying to quell the loneliness by just watching TV and sleeping in my room, hoping for vacation to come more quickly. Needless to say, that didn't go well and I failed out. Then I made it to the real world without a college degree. It's not good. I ended up returning to college and finally started making friends. A lot of my friends in college just randomly found me on Facebook, or I met people in classes from my department.

What year are you? If you're just in general education type courses, then give it time and keep your chin up. Everything gets better. After two years at my current school, I have nearly 30 friends there (though they just graduated and I have only a few left for my final semester.) My recommendation is to stick with it, because a degree certainly is worth the time spent, and if you join social clubs as others have mentioned it can definitely help. If there's a foreign language you're interested in, take it, as people usually want study partners.

It can be tough. I almost didn't make it at a few low points, but I'm happier than can be now. Hope you feel better soon.

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#3 Steyrvolt
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I could lie and say I don't have one to make ya feel better. :3

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#4 Steyrvolt
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[QUOTE="Steyrvolt"] Oh snap! You sure got me there. You do realize that they're still getting radio play because the idiots who loved them when they were around are still alive and listening to the radio/buying music today. 30 Seconds to Mars will probably be getting radio play when we're old, just to lure us towards certain stations. That doesn't mean they're not horrible. Nothing I like more than an "if it sells, then it's good" defense.flordeceres

why you mad tho?

here's the key problem with your argument: opinion. i could ask you about any band you enjoy and ascertain that they're horrible but that would be opinion based and thus subjective, resulting in irrelevance to any argument based on empirical evidence.

oh, and my argument was in no way related to your final statement, and i quote: 'a mixture of catchy hooks and fine songwriting'. whether that achieves high sales or not, it's unrelated and irrelevant to my statement.

Why assume I'm mad? All I did was "oh snap" your "oh snap." If anything, we might find that you are the one who is mad.

How is opinion the problem with my argument, and not both of our arguments? Nice try. You know what else is "a mixture of catchy hooks and fine songwriting?" Almost everything. Pop songs don't get released if they're not catchy. Thanks for explaining subjectivity, though! I'd never heard of it. -_-

Your statement WAS about sales, and I quote, "and i find the ability to remain a fixture of most radio lables after 40 years an immense feat, demonstrating their ability to put out gem after gem of pop music, which can only be achieved with a mixture of catchy hooks and fine songwriting." I merely pointed out that remaining a fixture of radio labels doesn't make their music long-lasting or catchy to anybody but the people who loved them when they were big. I just used a s****y, popular modern band as an example of what we might be listening to when we're old. I suppose Green Day might be a more pertinent example, since they have a few hits. (You did use an "if it sells it's good" defense, because songs that don't sell don't get radio play. Granted, you also said it was "fine songwriting," which means pretty much nothing, so I didn't comment on it.) And as for "gem after gem" of pop music, they have three albums which garnered good reviews, and most of those songs aren't very popular today. I'd wager that nearly every person (under 30) we went out and asked would only know Dancing Queen (*subjective shudder*) and Fernando.

Outside of lyrical value and stolen riffs, no music can be reviewed accurately in an objective manner, so I find the fact that you started arguing with my opinion to be quite silly.

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#5 Steyrvolt
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[QUOTE="Steyrvolt"] It's not actually a felony. That was my nice way of saying they're bad.flordeceres

oh snap. i guess you're either not very subtle or i'm not very bright.

and i find the ability to remain a fixture of most radio lables after 40 years an immense feat, demonstrating their ability to put out gem after gem of pop music, which can only be achieved with a mixture of catchy hooks and fine songwriting.

so, in short, they're good.

Oh snap! You sure got me there. You do realize that they're still getting radio play because the idiots who loved them when they were around are still alive and listening to the radio/buying music today. 30 Seconds to Mars will probably be getting radio play when we're old, just to lure us towards certain stations. That doesn't mean they're not horrible. Nothing I like more than an "if it sells, then it's good" defense.
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#6 Steyrvolt
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Bands: (Subject to change.)

Joy Division
The Dodos
System of a Down

Singers:

Bjork
Colin Meloy (even though I hate The Decemberists for their latest album. Thus their absence from the bands list.)
Emily Grace Whitehurst
(Singer from Flyleaf excluded due to personality.)

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#7 Steyrvolt
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[QUOTE="Steyrvolt"] It's a felony in most countries to even mention ABBA.flordeceres

wat.

It's not actually a felony. That was my nice way of saying they're bad.
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#8 Steyrvolt
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i'm a bit skeptical with previous comments on female fronted bands, specificaly that they don't go anywhere so i'll give examples of a few incredibly successful ones: ABBA, Florence + The Machine, Goldfrapp, Gossip, Joan Jett & The Black Hearts, She & Him, Skunk Anansie, etc.

all of them fantastic bands.

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#9 Steyrvolt
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Balloons/bottles are not the same thing. :P

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#10 Steyrvolt
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Most female-fronted bands are complete crap, but there are several female vocalists I love, even if their bands/lyrics are crap.

Flyleaf's vocalist has a beautiful voice, but I hate her and the band is below average.

Paramore is... just... the opposite of all that is good.

Eisley has a good fronting vocalist and I like one of their albums.

I loved Tsunami Bomb when they were still around, but The Action Design isn't very good.

The Raincoats were decent.

There are some great indie chicks, but they're mostly solo artists or have faceless bands, which doesn't include them here (such as Imogen Heap, Bjork, Feist, etc.)