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#1 SpruceCaboose
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Those who are hardcore tend not to post on gaming forums. They tend to spend the entirety of their spare time devoted to playing their game-idol and perfecting their interactive relationship with it (i.e. playing so much Ikaruga that one can play two player by oneself).foxhound_fox
Thats an obsessive, IMO. Not a healthy thing, just my two cents.
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You are hardcore or casual based on your passion for games and gaming, IMO, not on what brands you buy or what series you like. Very passionate and know about the hobby, you are hardcore. Just game for something to do, you are a casual. And the market needs and supports both, just like all entertainment.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

My friend, you are missing the point of this whole thread.

Op is boycotting new games because op isnt able to play online. Why should op get the benefits of online gaming when he/she is too cheap to buy it new.

What is the purpose of buying new games if you can get all the benefits in buying used and or renting games?

If you dont like online gaming, fine get it second hand, but dont complain on here because youre too cheap to pay full price.

This thread is not used vs new games

Evo_nine

My discussion with peter is about used and new now. This is called a subthread that is growing organically out of the original topic.

Which is why i asked before, what are you doing here??

open a new thread. Makes more sense doesnt it?

No, because we are here already, and we are responding to each other. Making a new thread for a one on one discussion makes as much sense as just saying our piece here and being done with it. I know his position, he knows mine. Not like anyone is changing anyone's minds on SW anyway.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

Too bad your frugality costs the developer an extra sale.

I too have the money to buy all my video games, and I can't remember the last time I bought a video game used.

But then again, I love to support the developers for their hard work.

Evo_nine

You could make that argument against all used markets everywhere, and the people who buy it are the reason consumers are losing all their rights to things they buy with tactics like DRM and whatnot. And besides, most of your new game money isn't going to the devs. You'd be better off sending them a check and pirating if you wanted the developers to make the most money, but I don't see anyone actually doing that or advocating that. And again, how do I buy new copies of old games when no places besides resellers (like on eBay) carry them anymore, and devs don't see a cut of it anyway? Just not play it?

My friend, you are missing the point of this whole thread.

Op is boycotting new games because op isnt able to play online. Why should op get the benefits of online gaming when he/she is too cheap to buy it new.

What is the purpose of buying new games if you can get all the benefits in buying used and or renting games?

If you dont like online gaming, fine get it second hand, but dont complain on here because youre too cheap to pay full price.

This thread is not used vs new games

My discussion with peter is about used and new now. This is called a subthread that is growing organically out of the original topic.
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It better have a disk drive, unless they'll let you download your 360 games onto it. If Halo 4 is good then most likely I'll still be playing it by then (just as I was playing Halo 2 when the 360 came out) and would like to play it on the new system. I wouldn't mind not having one if game prices come down.

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I highly doubt they would pass savings like that on to consumers. Didn't happen when music or books went digital. In fact, you could argue costs went up since they no longer need to compete as hard with a thriving resale market with digital content.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

Why do you buy used games in the first place, then?

peterw007

Generally to spend less money, sometimes because new copies of games I want are no longer available when I want to get them. Being frugal does not mean you don't have a job, or that you need a better one. One of the richest men in the world (Buffet) is notoriously frugal for a billionaire.

Too bad your frugality costs the developer an extra sale.

I too have the money to buy all my video games, and I can't remember the last time I bought a video game used.

But then again, I love to support the developers for their hard work.

You could make that argument against all used markets everywhere, and the people who buy it are the reason consumers are losing all their rights to things they buy with tactics like DRM and whatnot. And besides, most of your new game money isn't going to the devs. You'd be better off sending them a check and pirating if you wanted the developers to make the most money, but I don't see anyone actually doing that or advocating that. And again, how do I buy new copies of old games when no places besides resellers (like on eBay) carry them anymore, and devs don't see a cut of it anyway? Just not play it?
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

Have you bothered reading the thread title????????????????????????????????????????

What are you doing here!??

Evo_nine

I read the title. I was not responding to the title, but your claim that someone buying used games must not have a job.

Yes but my comment was in regards to jessejay and his/her online passes.

Clearly that individual does want to game online and cant afford to do so by buying new games.

Therfore he/she clealry has no job. /discussion.

Yeah, thats a completely air tight logical conclusion to draw. Never join a debate team or become a lawyer, the logical fallacies will eat you alive.
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Why do you buy used games in the first place, then?

peterw007
Generally to spend less money, sometimes because new copies of games I want are no longer available when I want to get them. Being frugal does not mean you don't have a job, or that you need a better one. One of the richest men in the world (Buffet) is notoriously frugal for a billionaire.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

If you buy a used game, you should get a used product.

It's as simple as that.

peterw007

Thats....the point?

A used car shouldn't be as efficient as a new car.

When you buy it, part of the value is lost because it's used.

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Using the same logic,

A used game shouldn't be as feature-rich as a new game.

When you buy it, part of the value should be taken away because it's used.

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It's all about equating "used game" with "used product," not "used game" with "new product."

You shouldn't pay $20 a month later and expect to get the exact same value as a $60 game day-one.

Again, I know that. I am not stupid. I wasn't refering to game passes, I was specifically taking issue with Evo's claim that if you buy used games you need a better job.
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#10 SpruceCaboose
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Have you bothered reading the thread title????????????????????????????????????????

What are you doing here!??

Evo_nine
I read the title. I was not responding to the title, but your claim that someone buying used games must not have a job.