Played all last night since the patch came out on PC with a controller. The framerate is still wildly inconsistent considering my setup (GTX 1070 / i7 6770k 4.0GHz / 32GB DDR4). I'm playing at 1080p maxed out and getting anywhere between 50fps and 90fps, and I get a steady 90fps or higher in Crysis 2 maxed out.

I'm actually interested in playing Dark Souls III at 60fps. I plan on buying it for PC the next time it gets a big price cut. I know some people think games like that feel sped up at 60fps, but I'd imagine the fighting is more responsive.

Well, the 60fps / unlimited framerate patch came out for Mafia 3 yesterday. After playing it with a controller it feels MUCH better, however there might be something to @Crypt_mx's comment about 60fps in open world games. I'm not used to seeing it because I normally play those games on console, but it still looks fine. My friend, who was watching, said the 60fps made her feel kinda sick (and this is someone who plays a lot of Overwatch, so it's not the framerate by itself).

I will say the game still appears to be unoptimized. I'm playing at 1080p with settings maxed and motion blur off and getting anywhere from framerates in the 50s to the 90s and I'm running a GTX 1070 8GB, an i7 at 4.0GHz, and 32GB of DDR4 RAM.

Still, playing at 60fps with a controller feels better. I was able to turn up the aiming sensitivity and turn off aim assist. I don't think I could comfortably do that at 30fps.

To be fair, while their games aren't as graphicly intensive, I do credit Nintendo with putting a priority on framerate. Imagine Smash at 30fps. Ugh.

I've played consoles since the NES, so I always had to accept what was on offer. I've been PC gaming for around 5 years now and just built a high-end rig this year. Hell, even 45 feels sluggish on PC. On consoles now I find myself gravitating towards games with 60fps. The Titanfall 2 beta was fine. The Battlefield games are fine. Overwatch is fine. But when I was playing Battleborn on PS4 it felt like such a struggle to play competitively because of the framerate. I have it for PC now, and it plays WAY better.

I know people like to make jokes about "PC elitists", but when you see the obvious difference, it's hard not to be annoyed. Now that I can go either way for multiplats, that plays into my choices. I bought Mafia 3 for PC because I heard the console version was gonna be 1080p/30fps, and even though I was planning on playing on my TV with SteamLink and a controller, I wanted the smoother gameplay. But if I had known it wouldn't make a difference, I would've bought the PS4 version. I know they're patching it, but I could've saved myself some money by just getting the PS4 version.

I don't know. I can see why people sometimes get pissed off about "Consoles holding the PC back."

What about "Spot and Mark" mechanics like in the Battlefield games and (more recently) Uncharted 4? They require you to physically see your target first, but then you can use a marker to keep track of them. Again, completely optional, but it forces you to be vigilant.

So I'm one of the unfortunate early adopters of Mafia 3 for PC. I like the game from what I've played so far, but like many people, I didn't build a decent gaming rig to play multiplats at 30fps. Hopefully Hangar 13/2K gets the patch they're talking about out this weekend.

That being said, playing with KB/M at 30fps feels objectively terrible. Yet when I pick up a controller, it feels playable. Could this be the reason so many console gamers (I, being a longtime console gamer myself) think that 30fps is totally fine? I feel like you can play 30 or 60fps with a controller, but not with KB/M. The speed of a mouse makes the low framerate too noticeable.

Obviously, higher framerates are better overall. So I guess my question is: Is 30fps acceptable on console/when played with a controller or should it never be acceptable? And if 30fps is acceptable with a controller, should it be console exclusive?

Already preordered on PC. Calling a 9 on it.

226 games. 180 installed. I've played each of them at least a little bit, but the vast majority I haven't finished. Or I finished them initially on console, then bought the PC version and never finished it.

I never finished The Evil Within (honestly, got bored with it), so I might do that. Also never finished Outlast, the new DOOM, and Until Dawn. Probably also play Killing Floor 2 and maybe REmake. That, and I have Amnesia, Penumbra, Dead By Daylight, and F.E.A.R. 2 on PC.

I might even revisit Left 4 Dead or Zombie Army Trilogy.

OR it could also be possible that PlayStation gamers are better and don't need an extra 12 minutes to get through that next game section. ;)