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#1 Rocker6
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@casharmy said:

BTW: to objectors who have said that it was consumers and not sony...that is incorrect. Consumer out cry alone did nothing to change MS's mind on this topic.

Don’t Like the Xbox One’s Internet Requirements? Don Mattrick Says Buy the Xbox 360

http://www.geekosystem.com/don-mattrick-buy-360/

When MS first presented xbox 1 and their policies they told gamers to "deal with it" and that the things they had were built into the makeup of xbox 1 and couldn't be changed.

Without sony presenting an option or another console that denounced the policies MS had in place and having the public recognize the differences make a choice with their dollars to overwhelmingly choose pre-order PS4 over xbox 1, MS would NOT have changed anything.

If Sony had followed MS and implemented the same policies in PS4 (which they could have) MS would not have changed anything.

Sorry Lumpy and all the other guys who rode your coat tails, that is the way it is, and that is the way the entirety of the gaming world sees it as well...but feel free to call me more names and rage some more.

It's not about what they said, it's about what they did, and that is scrapping most, if not all of the original policies. That quote you listed is irrelevant, since it was made before the "180" move by MS.

Consumer backlash against the X1 started as soon as some more credible rumors started flying in about the restrictive nature of the system, Sony only offered a product which catered to the consumer demands. If there was no consumer backlash, Sony would've followed MS.

Think whatever you want, Sony, MS, they're all just large, faceless corporations who aren't concerned with your love for gaming, but with your wallet.

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360 was a huge success for MS, Xbox got established as a powerful brand in the console world this gen, so they got arrogant.

Same thing as Sony after the PS2 success, really.

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All I got from the article is the dev wanting to see their IP grow and become successful... if that's "evil or unreasonable", I really don't know what to say.

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@casharmy said:

@Seabas989:

@Seabas989 said:

Wait when did gaming need saving?

When MS announced a requirement for always online connected status to play games and no used games policy! Because of Sony, that scheme is in the trash.

If Sony wasn't around with their system and policies to counter act what they did by going the opposite direction and publicly taking a stance against it...what MS has planned would be a reality now. It would have been a disaster and every other gaming platform there after would have followed suit.

Doubtful. The consumers were already in uproar over X1 original policies, and Sony decided to capitalize on that.

If there was no consumer uproar regarding X1 restrictive policies, good chance Sony would've followed suit. Contrary to the popular SW Cow belief, they're just another business, and businesses love DRM.

Ultimately, if anyone "saved" gaming, it was... the gamers themselves. Shocking, huh?

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@Sushiglutton said:

AC easily. AC's climbable world beats the entire SR package on its own. Then ofc AC has alots of problems in terms of mechanics and mission design etc.

This.

I have no idea why some people are trying to put SR on a pedestal these days, when it really isn't anything special. Just another decent open world game, nothing really unique about it. Haven't played SR IV yet, but going by the footage I saw, most of those superpowers were lifted right out of Prototype.

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@seanmcloughlin said:

@NameIess_One said:

I heard it's AdBlock related. Disable it, or make GS an exception, and it should work.

But... if there's no way you'd expose yourself to those creepy ads (like me), just watch the vids on Youtube! :P

Nope, still doesn't work without it

Great, then we're once again left at the mercy of GS programmers... I'm sure it'll be fixed, though... in a week or two... maybe a month.

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Nice, we got the number of pages per thread display, that's a pleasant sight. Now, I hope they remove that "System Wars" tag under every thread name, it's redundant, and makes no sense.

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@seanmcloughlin said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Get used to it, it's going to be used promintently throughout this next gen as an indirect way to combat piracy, even in singleplayer centric titles.

Yeah I know right? it sucks. Sony kept talking about having a DRM free console and technically I guess they're right and it's worded very well, but it's pointless if all these devs just have online only games anyway. I'm very much an old school gamer in that regard and hate when online interrupts my single player experience, I even hated it in Dark Souls and much preferred solo

Same here... I enjoy SP the most, and I'll always prefer the traditional game model with SP and MP being separated. Don't have a problem with some light on-line integration like a leaderboards system or something similar (Sleeping Dogs), but games where solo experience suffers significantly if you stay offline are a no-go for me.

Call it an outdated viewpoint, or whatever, but I'll always have the most fun with a game on my own. Only rarely do I want to play on-line, and when I do, I look for games where on-line is its own thing, and not an afterthought.

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@WilliamRLBaker said:

wait wait wait...saw this when posting a new thread.

  1. No alternate accounts.

Is this a rule or just a keep out of trouble by not doing this.

That's not fair, I need my alt.

Too bad it's useless now, those posting restrictions for new users are crazy. And, I changed the profile picture on it last night, so I may be pretty fvcked.

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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

I'm still surprised this gets debated.

Really?

This crap will be debated until the end of time... those two pixels, that extra frame, few small jaggies in the corner, some tech jargon, all reasons enough for the blood to be spilled...