@greaseman1985: It wasn't really low-budget. $40 million. But Paramount kept pushing around the release date (originally supposed to release in 2016) until selling the rights to Netflix. People are theorizing Paramount knew they had a dud on their hands and off-loaded it to someone else.
Wow, that looks terrible. There are few versions of the Turtles I didn't like. Bay's Turtles, the live-action show by the same people who did Power Rangers, the third live-action movie set in feudal Japan. I liked the early 2000s show. I liked the most recent CGI series.
This? This looks like a load of garbage. They're horribly over-designed and look like bad 90s designs.
@gatsbythepig: You're welcome. On the bright side, you weren't like a protest I saw back when Lord of the Rings: Two Towers was coming out. The protest claimed the movie was called The Two Towers specifically to profit from the 9/11 tragedy.
@nepu7supastar7: I can somewhat agree that most Jokers share similarities. I'd argue Ledger's Joker does, too. He believes in chaos, lies about not having a plan and yet is three steps ahead of everyone or has backup plans, takes advantage of Batman's sanctity for life, and isn't funny. That's one thing I believe many people - even die-hard Joker fans- don't understand about the character. I had a friend say before the movie came out, "But Heath Ledger isn't funny! He doesn't do comedy!" I said, "Good! Joker shouldn't be funny! He should be terrifying. He's like the kind of person who laughs at his own jokes." Is he different from any Joker we've seen before? Absolutely. But as you said, he carries many core personality traits.
I also strongly disagree that Ledger wasn't sure what he was going for. I think he put more thought and consideration into the role than even Christopher Nolan did. He has many little character ticks that you could pick apart that add to the character. Watch Movies with Mikey's video on The Dark Knight. He makes some excellent points. For example, the make-up made Ledger's lips dry. Instead of changing the make-up he made it part of the character.
@nepu7supastar7: There's no particularly solid "THE" Joker, though. He's had so many interpretations over the decades that there's no one version that defines him. He was a murderer using Joker gas, a bank robber with elaborate traps and tricks (Adam West Batman and the Silver Age when depictions of murder were frowned upon), a gangster (Animated Series, Tim Burton films), a trickster, etc. His personality has been invariably different depending on the creative team.
The movie - and especially Heath himself - did their own interpretation. So did Suicide Squad (which I hated, but as I said, another interpretation isn't without precedence).
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