Wow so many stories about the X. SEEMS like MS is paying extra for advertising.

For the few who have a high end 4K tv, as every article stated, only then will even be worth it.

I wish PS 4 Pro dropped 4k and focused on frame rates or AI physics.

Shakes head. Im really disappointed with this same as with Ps4 Pro. People, these are the same consoles with betrer graphics, and not a whole level better graphics either. Its not the leap of SNES TO N64 or PS1 to ps2... Its somewhat better graphics, if you pause the game and look for the difference.

My main problem is that Sony and Microsoft will continue to focus on power consuming visuals and not improve on anything else, to my dismay. I'm playing fewer games because its all the same over the years. PSVR is a change but little in games. Well im getting Skyrim VR. Hope that helps. Though I want a LOT better AI !!

Sony for that cash you should trow in 3 months of PSN + and a VR Worlds, far point w/gun. If no price cut then bundle a lot in with system.

Microsoft makes Billions a year. Why is this even a problem? They are penny wise and pound foolish. Their focus on getting they can out of their loyal customers.

Another good addition for a great game. Keep it up. Though I wish there was more time to play, its difficult to find time anymore. Oh to be young when one has seemingly all the time in the world.

@lonesamurai1: true Steam is temting me to get a gaming PC but my timr is limited for a while.

@axgryndr: I have a 65" 1080p high end T.V. which I bought on discount as 4K T.V. started to become popular. I enjoy it very much and plan to until all content is 8k and 4k T.V.s are dirt cheep.

"the Xbox One X had the rendering preference set to Visuals for the highest quality

Xbox One X can get close to that framerate when set to Performance mode."

So the XB1X can cime close to EITHER visuals OR frames, WHEN set to do so. I don't think it was nessory to use sli for the comparison. Also the difference in visuals is mild when playing the game, so the XB1S would do unless you have a laege (50+ inc.) 4k tv

@roycruz: Your facts are lacking and cherry picked. You leave out a bunch of PS4 games. Many well received and highly rated.

in the end you seem over zealous in your defense of the Xbox1. We all get it you love your Xbox 1 no problem there but a bit delusional on most aspects, and incorrect. There would need to be a unbiased third party to document all the problems on both live and PSN to determine which network was down or had the most problems. Both do have problems that is for sure, but both work so....

Its fine to like one type of game but since metacritic or gamesranking are out there is a way to compare. going by these there are more PS4 games with higher ratings than Xbox1 games. (exclusives)

I don't care about 4K. The difference as has been stated by most reviewers is difficult and really does not matter to me. so the whole discussion is pointless and mute for eithe XB1X or PS4pro.

I think it has to do with the realism of the clip. showed the wife and she though it was real people and thought it was excessive, then when I told her she really had to look hard to tell the difference.

I really am not sold on the beauty of the game but more how it plays. SO nice in game visuals but its only because the first game was well done (gameplay wise) that I became excited about this.

Its a violent game.... appropriately Rated R like any gory Rated R movie it has blood and gore in it. Maybe they are complaining about access to it.

gone on Amazon so only Gamestop left

saving $20 is a good thing.