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#1 PraetorianMan
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Different post, but like I said in the other thread.

There's a little more going on here than just Clinton going off the deep end.

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There's a bit more here going on than just Clinton going off the deep end. Maybe not much more, but Gabbard's weird following of 4chan weirdos and Russian bot twitter account isn't exactly fiction.

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#3  Edited By PraetorianMan
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@vfighter: correct, because defending Clinton doesn’t make someone look like a giant fucking idiot in the same way that defending Trump does.

Snide response aside, the legal situations around trump and Clinton are nowhere near comparable. Trump and his subordinates have openly and flagrantly bragged about and confirmed illegal/improper acts in a way that Clinton never Dude Clinton never had a Giuliani or Mulvaney equivalent

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I can get the argument that we shouldn't be in middle east wars and we shouldn't have been in northern syria in the first place. Fine, I can get that, but that's not the issue. We actually got involved, recruited the Kurds as allies to fight ISIS for us.... and then sold them out. That's quite a bit different, and quite a bit worse than just never being there in the first place.

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#5  Edited By PraetorianMan
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Not wanting to stab our allies in the back doesn't make you a warmonger. It just makes you not stupid. The only way someone can read into what Trump has done here and NOT see the downsides is if they have some sort of authentic comprehension disorder.

This is a bigger deal than just the Kurds getting attacked by Turkey. How TF is the US supposed to make allies with *ANYBODY* after this?

Compare this to the relationship China has with North Korea. China gets absolutely nothing out of this relationship, they would have been better off dumping NK like hot garbage decades ago.... but they don't, because Mao Zedong made a promise to Kim Il Sueng that the PRC would always be there to help the DPRK no matter what happened. If you're playing a real life version of Tropico and you get offered a diplomatic proposal from the USA or China, who should you choose? An offer from the country with an established record of stabbing its allies in the back and not following through on its promises? Or an offer from a country takes its word and its promises so seriously that it somehow has forced itself to stay friends with Kim Jong Un even though it gets nothing out of the relationship.

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#6 PraetorianMan
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Oh wtf I didn’t even hear about the nuclear weapons thing

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LOL

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No. She’s one of the only people who are likely to actually lose against trump.

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#10 PraetorianMan
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EW claiming NA as part of her ancestry was a shitty thing to do, but Trump has lowered the bar so fucking much that this has become a complete non-issue.

Does it suck that she did it? Sure, but at least she didn't brag about committing a sexual assault into a hot mic. Trying to dig up shit on her past isn't going to get anything worthwhile.