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#1 Perth2008
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[QUOTE="Artosa"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Vietnam is a bad bad bad setting. Add that this is Treyarch+Activision again and it's enough for me to pass on this game until it hits the bargain bin.Black_Knight_00
why is it bad setting? there were many intense battles in vietnam, saying it is bad setting makes you look ignorant, and plus, there was quite a variety of weapons used in vietnam.

While in WW2 the US army was fighting another military, in Nam they were basically fighting untrained civilians defending their homes and families. None of the rules of war applied, both sides did horrible things to prisoners and it was a long war of attrition with hits and retaliations. Entire villages were destroyed just to smoke out a few guerrilla members. As far a videogame morals go, while shooting nazis kinda makes me feel like I'm fighting the "bad guys", vietnam doesn't.

Yup, well I guess it's all a matter of perspective and WWII was arguably a bit more black and white, in the "good vs evil" sense, albeit if you were "liberated" by the Soviets you may have a different perspective on who the good guys were.

I've recently played and reviewed a swag fullof Vietnam based games ... there are certainly some good titles and the ones that I ranked in my top three pretty well capture the shades of grey that was the Vietnam conflict. Equally there are shades of grey in the recent Iraq invasion/liberation and the war in Afghanistan. Certainly your description of the Vietnam war is similar to what did happen and still happens in guerrila wars ... yes, there is no front line and it can be a fine line between a terrorist and a freedom fighter and what is "acceptable collaterall damage".

Anyway, enough moralising ... while one would like to see a new Vietnam game I'm pretty sure that the stories that need to be told have been in the games already available and we would basically be served up with same old Hollywoodised missions with the only"new things" being far better graphics and the need to stay online for DRM purposes.

I agree that we already have enough modern era (hypothetical) FPS titles available and indeed some companies do a better job than others in balancing narrative and fireworks. It is pretty much a case of Tom Clancyesque of Robert Ludlumesque views of modern war ... the nightly news certainly tells us its still gritty and ugly out there in our current real conflicts. I prefer historical, rather than hypothetical shooters, but some topics, even Vietnam, still resonate with many people in negative ways. Personally,I'd like to see a Falklands 1981 game, but only if told from both sides ... probably won't happen. I guess hypothetical games are less controversial, that isunless it's your country or race that is cast as the bad guys: China, Arabs, etc these days replacing the Reagan era Soviet bogeymen and those evil Nazis. Ooops, moralising again.

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#2 Perth2008
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Hi ALL

An good illustrated example of what you are probably seeing before the graphics problem is fixed and how to fix it can he found HERE.

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#3 Perth2008
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@zombiecharlie

G'day ZC

Not 100% sure, but I recall something similar happening and it was to do with whether you tried to patch with the US version if you have the UK (as I do) version of MOV. The UK is usually not the one most games websites host. Why 2 versions for the english speaking world? Buggered if I know!

Try the UK patch (9.995MB) here at Filefront or here at Games on Net and if that doesn't work, then try the US one also available there.

I'll email you the patch log file I got and it shows that the UK one was successful for me. You should get a similar file created on installation.

Good luck!

[BTW, dakan45 has posted a review, albeit in his blog, about Vietcong/Fist Alpha/Purple Haze - have a read.]

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Well ... I playedQoS and enjoyed it ... though it's harder to "play" (well, more correctly it's harder to start the game) now since the mid-2009 Internet Explorer security patches ... see my 26 Dec 2009 blog.

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The problem is LIKELY that you run Internet Explorer ... see my 26 December 2009 blog.
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FIFA 10 almost ready! 20 days to DEMO release!

http://fifa.easports.com/enAU/home.action

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#7 Perth2008
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Soccer and sports games in general seem to be a niche market ... a bit like submarine and flying simulations ... too many buttons to remember! :?

The FIFA series get a good wrap ... I never tried more than the FIFA 2008 demo myself, not really my thing though. There is also the UEFA EURO series ... with the run up to the next World Cup in South Africa I'm sure we'll see a related licensed game. I recall reading that the "official licenced" Beijing Olympics PC game was a real dog ... but there is, between FIFA and EURO, enough "history" to suggest a good licensed game will result.

You can probably take a punt and find a pre-loved (older) FIFA and or EURO game on eBay and dip your toe in, especially if you have graphical/system restrictions. As we know, many a good game can be played on an old disk!

My son, who loves to play the real game has EURO 2000 on Playstation and likes playing that, but he didn't get at all enthused by FIFA 2008 (PC demo) ... probably more to do with other interests (like playing Rome Total War) than anything wrong with the game I suspect.

BTW, I guess in any game the smart money would be on the Socceroos over Ireland ;)