Your thinking to big my guy. Lol! Most people who follow gaming / participate in the console war just don't have the history, or the ability to think that long term and pay attention to trends.

Sorry guy, this is just a bad take.

• The backwards compatibility on the PS service is mix of downloadable and streaming only (and they haven't specified what applies to what game). On Game Pass Ultimate, everything is downloadable, and some of those things are cloud.
• Price is in PS's favor. If you pay the monthly price you are just giving PS money for no reason. The yearly fee is the way to go, and honestly MS should do the same.
• Your last point makes NO sense, as MS's offering a better deal in terms of content, options, and versatility. GPU puts Sony's offering in a bad light.

Honestly, PS Plus Premium shouldn't be compared to GPU, it should only be compared to the basic PC or Console GP plan ($10 per month / $120 per year). If you do that, the PS's offering is comparable to MS's, and in some ways it may be better. But GPU encompasses console, Mobile, and PC, where you can download and/or stream games, get monthly free games, access to XBL services, and EA Play. Not to mention the day one games and the coming deals with other services (Ubisoft games are said to be on the way).

PS's subscription service is kind of DOA in terms of offerings in the wake of GPU.

I think people are missing the part about PS5 users only being able to see the PS5 pricing of a product that is essentially the same thing as the PS4 version's pricing. Sony are essentially hiding products in their store, and misinforming people in order to get their money. Couple that with their refund policy, and that may be a recipe for a lawsuit. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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@OniLordAsmodeus said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@SecretPolice said:

@SolidGame_basic:

Both Phil and I say...

See, easy peasy lemon squeezy. lol :P

looks like a poor man's Spider-Man game 🤣

You do realize that Sunset Overdrive helped to shape the current Insomniac Spiderman games don't you? That comment is hella ironic.

lmao if you think Sunset Overdrive had any influence on Spider-man. You know that Spider-Man games have existed for decades?

Reading is fundamental my friend. I said "Insomniac Spiderman games", as in the Spiderman games that Insomniac developed?

Sunset Overdrive, a Microsoft game funded game, laid much of the ground work for the Sony exclusive Spiderman games.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2022/01/18/sunset-overdrive-helped-spider-man-ps5-ps4/

@SolidGame_basic said:

@SecretPolice said:

@SolidGame_basic:

Both Phil and I say...

See, easy peasy lemon squeezy. lol :P

looks like a poor man's Spider-Man game 🤣

You do realize that Sunset Overdrive helped to shape the current Insomniac Spiderman games don't you? That comment is hella ironic.

They definitely did. All the non-committal talk they did during the Zenimax acquisition was to mitigate risk. They couldn't be seen as dictating or making promises for anything regarding Zenimax during the acquisition phase as they didn't own Zenimax at the time. They didn't want the deal to fall through or to foster ill will due to some stupid statement that they couldn't back up.

It is a similar deal with Activision, albeit on a MUCH larger, and much more visible, scale.

I heard a lawyer (I forget his name) say that the FTC could block the deal almost on a whim (a whim they would be able to back up) seeing as the current administration is all about stopping tech giants from amassing more power. MS is doing all it can to deflect attention off themselves and put that attention on a "larger" fish.

MS DWARFS both Sony and Nintendo (combined and probably multiplied), so it is in their interest to seem as small as possible in comparison to them and the greater gaming landscape.

It is in MS's interest to down play EVERYTHING in regards to their standing in the gaming market as it plays in their favor. It was most definitely a strategic message crafted to facilitate a smooth review by the FTC. They aren't "worried" about the FTC, but they HAVE to be cautious as if they were to just go around bragging how they are going to put this company or that company out of business, that would draw attention.

They want everything to seem like business as unusual.

This should be a thing across the board for ALL subscription services, not just gaming. I'd appreciate something like this for gym memberships, TV subscriptions...everything.

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@OniLordAsmodeus said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@OniLordAsmodeus: then why doesn't MS just go full software? That would maximize sales

They pretty much have. They are selling software/services on Xbox consoles, mobile, PC, Switch, and even Sony platforms too (Death Loop? Minecraft?). If you don't think MS is trying to put GP on PS5 your crazy...and likewise, if you think Sony isn't saying HELL NO behind the scenes to try and slow MS's plan down, your also crazy.

MS is playing a long game, trying to get hooks in everything so they can expand their ecosystem beyond "a single console". In the coming years they are going to have GP on regular smart TVs, just like they have them on phones today. "Xbox" is/will no longer be a console box, it's a platform that encompasses a suite of devices.

Ya, but Sony is still the leader, why would they want to put GamePass on PS5 when they have 50+ million PS+ members they can easily switch over to their own thing?

Again, MS is playing the long game. Sony is ahead right now in console sales, and probably even in total gaming revenue too, but when MS's gaming revenue is coming from all directions in the future, dwarfing anything that Sony can do with just one console, then what?

This is precisely why Sony is putting games on PC now (and I'm sure they are looking for more platforms to put their gaming content on (Netflix?)). Right now, Sony can't (like they literally can't) make all their money back for their AAA tier 1 games by just selling to their console install base.

They pretty much have. They are selling software/services on Xbox consoles, mobile, PC, Switch, and even Sony platforms too (Death Loop? Minecraft?). If you don't think MS is trying to put GP on PS5 your crazy...and likewise, if you think Sony isn't saying HELL NO behind the scenes to try and slow MS's plan down, your also crazy.

MS is playing a long game, trying to get hooks in everything so they can expand their ecosystem beyond "a single console". In the coming years they are going to have GP on regular smart TVs, just like they have them on phones today. "Xbox" is/will no longer be a console box, it's a platform that encompasses a suite of devices.