Well from what I know from talking to a visual effects artist and a few peeps at beyound 3d my understanding is the lack of API. Basically an API such as Direct X allows certain features to be accessed easily both from the devs point of view as well as the console/pc's processing those features. The pros are obviously shorter dev times and easier refinement of bugs while the cons are a lack of originality/varity in such said effects like bump mapping ect.

So in other words if a game reliant on an API allows for say only small tidal wave's in real time a game without an API will allow for small medium and large tidal wave's albeit it'll take longer to dev due to addressing the larger variety of features! This in part is why so many different games in Sony's library have been "shining jewels" when compared to the majority of Xbox or PC titles. Many of these Sony exclusive devs don't use 3rd party engines like Epic games UE used in many Xbox titles (such as Splinter Cell, Mass Effect) which allows them to more accurately express their visual stylings.

From what I know the GS on PS2 used a pseudo combination of Open GL API and some direct address values to the rasterer, Over time devs naturally learn newer ways to compress textures maps and fix loops, ect that may have caused a prrevious installment in a game to have less "stuff" going on, on screen then its sequel so thats how GOW2 did it.

Not to turn into a systems war or anything but this in part is why the PS3 is slated to be the best visually over the coming years in that sequels of franchises have the opportunity to visually excell leaps and bounds over previous installment when compared to 360/PC titles who are restricted by DX API's!

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[QUOTE="Goku2639"]If I were ***. then Id hate the 360 too cuz the PS3 has all the anime-ish and rpg games. Including MGS4magicalclick

loljoke?

and MGS4 is an anime-ish or RPG game now?? lol

uhh yeah dude, i mean the game was created by a Japanese guy. Unless you think that robots with human legs isnt anime?

cuz you know our military tottally has those...

SW has robot with legs too. But the one in MGS is really anime indeed. I mean robot doesn't need to have screaming pose. It doesn't need to scream nor have the deisnge simular to jaws.

Yeah i feel you,... MGS does have that anime-ish feel in its cutscenes which to me help the games story move along alot better and feel less dull/forgetable like Splinter Cell or some other MS franchises. Im personally a Sony fan if ya haven't noticed but one thing well actualy 2 things American made that sell well in JP is Starcraft and Halo.

For some reason that sucked in the asian crowd and considering how those story's are compared to their contemporary's I can kinda see why. If 360 gets more RTS (i duno i believe Halo wars ??? or something that sell some consoles) it can spell a turn around for 360 sales in JP. Another thing worth mentioning is that the Wii thus far really is KING in JP both hardware wise and software. Since launch all i've seen from Sony are US/EU dev'd games which have been gaining ground in such territory's in relation to 360 but aside from all the multi-ports coupled with the way these games are "made' both 360 & PS3 alienate the mystery we call Japanese gamers!

In fact i'll go so far as to say that if XN ??? thingy for 360 gets big probably their #1 buyers will be the japanese considering how cheap/arcady Wii games are and how easy those types of d/l'able titles can be made using 360's dev kit & live but still MS will have to delve into the JP mind to create such content cuzz 2d worms shooting bombs at each other sells well in America but in JP it may be something as lame as a tuna eating squid (im thinking of Sony's Loco Rocco or that Katamari Damashi game)

This game seems geared toward run and gun type of shooter lovers. Even if it is a bit old fashioned, I am actually tired of the WW 2 type of stuff. Everybody except euro magazines which no has ever heard of has at least praised the game even though it has it's fault. I think people are beginning to get greedy and expect every game to be triple A. Why does every shooter get compared to Halo or COD 4. If it doesn't reach up to those levels it's like "this game sucks because in COD 4 and in Halo you can do blah". I would compare this game to UT 3, even though ut did not have a story, but that is just me. gamenerd15

I haven't played COD4 and grew tired of Halo in the beginning of #2 so anything out side of these boxe's is a plus for me! Sine i like anything UT i beckon i'll like Haze which i preveously thought i'd dislike.

Well my fav's Beethovens moonlight sonata... something so mysterious about that tune...been my fav every since Resident Evil 1 on PS! Theres also some song with violins and chellos that sounds sinister & moving, I believe it was used in some 90's "master card" commercials or some play with Gen. Washintong in a boat (???) might have been that master card commercial dont know

But yeah out of that list for me its Nobuo Uematsu! One winged angel to me is the greatest piece created in the last 100 years, it conjures images of heaven & hell doing battle everytime I hear it. Havent played or heard KH or that other title but Fullmetal Alchemist has some good albeit short "old school" tracks if anyone d/l's that kinda stuff.

I mainly listen to rap and thrash/speed/death metals with a bit of that latin stuff, i like alot of genres just not the majority of artist within said genres, im strange that way.

for me its the combination of gameplay and story thats derived from current world events implementing somewhat viable technology with over the top memorable characters/boss battles.

MGS pretty much puts these elements toghether unlike any other game series. Splinter Cells nice but with that game you get a super great character with really weak/lame enemy's throught the entire game who don't utilize real world CQB/clearing techniques.

You also don't get a trully engaging story with a true sence of urgency to accommplish ur goals as you would in MGS (i.e. each objective throught a level is forgetable once completed much like the orig Doom, its like ur just moving from point A-B killing nobodey's). Simply put all other military based 3rd/1st person shooters out there are purely gameplay driven while MGS offers both in equal ammounts!

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Good news, I wish the best for the PS3, I hope it really does well in this console war. Soon the argument "PS3 has no games" will be useless, what else is there to complain about then? :P
I think a lot of people are considering buying a PS3 when you think about how well the PS2 sold. Sony must have a huge fanbase. But I think the pricing scares people or prevents them from buying it, so in time, the prices will go down and more people will buy the console.

Sony should do a better job marketing the PS3 and making people remember that it exists. Especially this year when a lot of potentially good games will be released for the console.

Anyway, I have no doubt that the PS3 will survive this console war.

Toadso

I have seen that commercial you are speaking off, It was aired on European television channels during christmas (I live in Europe so I cant really speak about the marketing in America). I still feel that Sony needs to make people aware of the existience of their console and their line up of games. They should do heavy marketing when MGS4 and Home is released. There are probaly an abundance of potential PS3 buyers out there. Sony need to reach out to more people then just the folks surfing different gaming sites like for example Gamespot.
When all the great titles are released, Sony will sell more consoles. But they should exploit their line up and exercise some heavy marketing so that they may sell more, right? :)

Yeah i spoke about this around when Lair got launched kinda...when "major" titles come out on Sony console Sony needs to "50/50" with these 3rd party devs and make commercials just advertising THAT SINGLE TITLE to focus would be buyers of how great it is instead of a compilation of short clips.

I think this is where MS has Sony beat, they have both forms of commercials (compilations of what 360 has to offer as well as singular titles ads like Gears, H3, GRAW ect.) while Wii actually shows ppl lookin like nerds playing with the remotes "denoting" you will have fun playing this with friends even if ya can't see the stupid game!

All marketing i tell ya, i swear most if not all of Sony sales thus far have been due to hardcore crowds such as those that visit sites like GS and get schooled on what PS3 can do. Those commercials don't even mention PS3's Blu-ray movie playback or its other features that would potentially sell alot of customers.

Dammit Sony aughta make me marketing director, ill work for free games!!!

Honestly I never knew it was coming.De_Bears

Lol i didnt hear about this game until i saw a trailer for it a few days ago on gametrailers. looks like a battlefield clone!

Alright so last gen fps were one of the biggest if not the biggest genre especially for multiplayer but does anyone else agree that this gen they are pretty much the same with better graphics, halo 3, haze and even though killzone 2 looks like one of the best graphical games yet it just looks pretty much the same. I mean i love fps and always liked the medal of honour series but theres just too much of the same games. The big reason why i would buy them nowthis gen is online play.

Does anyone else agree that we need more storyline base games like mgs, gta, silent hill, resident evil and mass effect, these are games that will keep hooked for longer and you feel really into it and interested. My opinion is that fps will just become like football games, really only for casual play with a friend online or offline. I also love games like onimushua which are good and long and have great story and gameplay was fantastic, does anyone else agree. I think mgs has the right idea, you can choose to play in fps or 3rd person, so anyway just wanna know your opinons, i mean i do love fps but get sick if theres too many cause they are really just the same now, i hope we get more great games such as onimushua and rpg's that don't have a kiddy feeling.

Paddy345

Woooo hold ya horses! This gen is still in its infancy its only natural now that with the power consoles have and the tried and tested success of FPS that they would be the bulk of games coming out in and around launch to help spur sales and pay for these consoles dev cost! As more time goes on PS3 will start having more and more of those other games you want so badly most likely from the same devs who've always made such titles (Konami, Square ect)

Itz all alot like whne the Xbox 1st launched, most games for the 1st 2 years were 1st/3rd person shooters but alot began to change with title like Morrowind and KOTOR, thats when other genres started hitting the Xbox more and more so PS3 will be there in no time considering its Japanese and they just tend to play/dev more types of games then Americans!