Wheres PES 2016? I thought it was gonna be a FIFA killer this year? Nope. Again it didn't sell for shit. Just like last year. I was the only one to get it on release at my GameStop. Everyone else came for destiny. I thought they were waiting for forza 6. Nope. Waiting for that 'crap game' that everyone says sucks -destiny. And yeah it was selling PS4 bundle at my store. Biggest waiting line so far this year.

I have to laugh at Sony and the 48 countries they sell the PS4 in. How much do they lose In most of these countries? The point of them selling 25 million consoles worldwide is irrelevant but for the fact that it impresses among the average idiot consumer in the market they care most about- the USA-and clueless shareholder that it must be selling like hotcakes and therefore its the best console. Its been effective so far, it seems, so I give Sony a thumbs up for business acumen and awareness of their average consumer base's intelligence. I would love to see what their actual cost versus sales numbers are.

I would love to see Sony's actual cost of selling Ps4s in all of the countries they are in. I bet they are losing money in many markets only to sell the 25/million worldwide figures to the USA consumers who think its great and jump on the hype bandwagon and to impress shareholders since the company is in the red overall. It seems to be a very effective strategy so far. What I would give to see the real numbers behind the PS4....

@Trev9421: my bro worked at Wally world as well and he couldn't wait to get the **** outta there. The managers were idiots. Most of the other employees.didn't know their head from their arse. Poorly run store he was at. Probably varies from store to store and the quality of management that's there.

@yukushi: yeah I thought killzone and drive club were average at best. And I'm sure he already knows what games are available for it. Just because you think they are all great doesn't mean all other people have interest in playing them.

@Mogan: I bought one a few months back and played the exclusives I wanted to play and then recently sold it. I play more on the X 1 so I don't need 2 systems. Maybe I will buy another ps4 next year when some good exclusives are out.

Looks like they picked the right guy for the job. I appreciate his candor even if he is stating the obvious. And even though I had problems with my first xone- the disc drive didn't run- and now my second one is having drive issues as well- I sold my ps4 because I just didn't play it that much. Good thing I got an extended warranty for 2 years. The GameStop manager said I must have bad luck because almost no one else is having problems with their consoles at that store. The Ps4 I bought used worked fine. Anyone else have the same issues?

'In and out' combat is engrossing. So that's what they're calling it these days...

Still waiting to pick this up once all the patches and dlc is out. Probably wait for a goty edition. I don't like the fact that so many patches on console games are the norm now. You're not getting the best version of the game on day 1 anymore.