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#1 Fenriswolf
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@Halo05 said:

Now, if you're a game developer and you have an artistic vision that is outside the scope of the straight, male, game-playing majority, you need to expect your title to sell fewer copies because myself and millions of other people who built this industry for the last... 40 years or so, have no interest in (for example) experiencing the struggles of teenage-dom through the lens of a transgendered girl. So make your artsy game, manage your expectations, and realize that in a capitalist society, I should not be compelled to purchase something that I have zero interest in.

Furthermore, companies that function within said capitalist society should not be shamed for attempting to turn a profit by appealing to their biggest demographic: straight, male, gamers.

So here's the question, who subsidizes AAA titles that cost millions of dollars to make when they start including elements that large portions of the public find distasteful or offensive? You can cry and wring your hands all about how intolerant people are, but it all comes down to money and when Christian parents Bobby and Jane find out that there's a gay wizard in Dragon Age 3, they aren't going to be too keen on their kids playing it.

You're right, which is why people rather buy braindead rehashes like COD and BF every year where you unquestioningly mow down hundreds of brown people, just because. To contrary the acknowledgement of the fact that females, non-Whites, and gays exist within the gaming community with the "endangerment" of your own identity as a straight White male is laughable. Just like the movie industry where artsy movies like Boyhood can coexist with your standard action fare like Captain America, the CODs and BFs in the gaming industry can coexist with your Gone Homes and Depression Quests, because none of your indie fare are trying to appeal to you or replace your standard consumerist dross, and their authors aren't blind to the fact. You're free to purchase and play whatever "safe" game you feel like, and I tend to look out for games which at least attempt to breakout from the mainstream narratives.

And I won't fault companies trying to make a profit in a capitalist society, but that doesn't mean that should be given free passes either. Stereotypes of women and non-Whites often exists, not because that their creators are deliberate racists or misogynists, but because poor storytelling techniques often renders people into simple, cardboard cutouts, and it does say something when the storyline of your most acclaimed games are still relegated to ripping off popular summer movie themes. If there are still people in the 21th century who can't handle the fact that gay people exists and can be depicted on popular media, that's their problem, just as people are allowed to purchase games simply because it contains gay people.

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#2 Fenriswolf
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And what's funny is that one of the spiritual leaders of Gamergate writes for Breitbart, a site notorious for its lurid conspiracy theories against anyone who doesn't follow their ultra conservative ideals. Hell, they have a habit of recording hidden footage of certain people, ask them trap questions, selectively edit them to act as if they're in the wrong. So far, all of their footage has been discredited, but their fallout caused the federal defunding of ACORN, an organization for helping the working class (Breitbart edited footage to alleged that they support illegal immigration), as well as a woman who worked for the Georgian Agricultural Dept being fired (Breitbart alleged that Shirley Sherrod made racist comments, but in reality she made them in the context of critiquing her past). Even the author of the "feminist bullies" article was noted for his distaste of gaming culture before he found that he can easily manipulate the situation for his own needs. The very fact that GG uncritically accept Breitbart, even in the context of journalistic ethics, makes me cringe.

What's sad is that I actually agree with many of the critiques of Kotaku and other Gawker media sites, which often engage in sensationalist headlines that often misrepresent others. But you should fight poor entertainment journalism with poorer political journalism, as the latter has far more consequences for society as a whole. As much I wanted to support greater accountability in gaming journalism, being a politically conscious person, I cannot allow opportunists to misrepresent my positions for their own ends.

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#3 Fenriswolf
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@WuShogun212 said:

To the gamers making death threats, I wish they wouldn't but I understand the rage. When "we" the average gamers are not being heard we take out our frustration on people over the internet, some are presenting great arguments and others are making unjustifiable death threats. Just like in any society where the people are not being represented there is a protest or a revolt against the person causing the injustice or the system who are supporting them. All the media is focused on is the gamers who are making threats not the gamers who are making rational intelligent counter points to issues like feminist attacks on gaming. In the message you guys posted in the news section you said you "refuse to give oxygen to a disturbing minority who seek to use this debate as an excuse for their own appalling actions", but that's not true, you would rather post about gamers threatening the life of someone than reporting gamers making intelligent points, you promote one for clicks but ignore the other. You're not only giving them oxygen you're feeding them a hot meal and running a nice warm bath for them too. Women, journalist, and developers wouldn't be getting attacked if the gaming media presented both sides fairly, but they don't, so instead of informing people you are just adding more ignorance to an all ready ignorant filled community.

In other words, you're engaging in victim blaming. Cultural products, be it gaming, music, films, or films, gets criticized all the time by a variety of different positions. Hell, I enjoy watching certain movies with hyper-masculine heroes slaughtering hundreds of mooks, and there are all sorts of criticism on its gender, race, and class contents. I read such critiques, and still chose to enjoy such films regardless, because I understand that acknowledging someone's else's position doesn't have to come at a cost of your own. If you're so insecure about your beliefs that an article makes you lash out and send people death threats, then the problem lies with you, not the other person.

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#4 Fenriswolf
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Apparently some people at Epic's forums found a way to disable cookies and vote multiple times, that's why UT3 is winning. That game'snetcodeis so buggy that's the only way to spend their time.