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@blindbsnake: Again with the "you're an insecure bigot if you don't agree with me" line of thought. Which in this case doesn't work because my issues with Abby and her sex scene have nothing to do with muscles. If women with muscles made me insecure about my manhood, I wouldn't be popping a tent over Cara Dune in Mandalorian every time she's on screen. Pretty sure she could break my d*** off with her thighs and that kinda turns me on. My definitions of beauty are many and varied.

No the issue with that sex scene is that it is entire unnecessary and is extreme tonal whiplash.

As for the story being bad, I did not mean that if you can't get people to understand the story that it fails. I meant that if you can't get people involved in the story at its base level, they'll never stick around long enough to even attempt to get into the deeper meanings. And that's where TLoU2 fails story wise. It tries too hard to be deep while treading story beats many many works of fiction have already handled better.

And they handled it better because they aren't videogames. Fundamentally, videogames need to be fun in some form. Be it a First Person Shooter that plays off of adrenaline and dopamine or a game like Dark Souls where the fun comes from overcoming challenges. This is where TLoU2 fails most. It's just not fun. Or at best it's spurts of fun bookended by a bleak, dreary, dystopian essay on the dark parts of humanity. With a sex scene thrown in because. Part 2 would have worked...alright as a book or as a movie, but as a videogame the story drags down the gameplay as well as the story just being not that interesting. For meaningful stories with depth, I'm used to the likes of Heinlein and Scalzi. TLoU2 is just shock value followed by tonal whiplash while your characters lament the shittiness of the world around them while the player as Abby has a massive grin on their face while they punch things into non-existance or gets excited over clearing an area by slitting everyones throat without being seen.

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@Berserk8989: You seem very much like the sort of person who rationalizes others dislike of something you love by imagining that everyone who dislikes the thing you love must be a homophobic a**hole who hates the LGBTQ+ movement and suck Trumps d***. Well guess what? I'm not a homophobe, voted for Bernie in the primaries, and voted Blue No Matter Who this year because the Republican party is a bunch of spineless scum that are so far Fascist Right-wing that Reagan looks like a Communist hippy by comparison.

I don't have any issue with politics of TLoU2. My issues are that the story sucks regardless of the politics and that they axed the multiplayer that I loved. The gameplay looks fantastic but like I said, at every turn the story gets in the way of the gameplay.

To go back a couple posts, I also love your notion that Naughty Dog deserves money because of how hard they worked on TLoU2. I work hard making my morning s*** after a dinner of spicy chicken gizzards. Doesn't stop my fiancee from going to the bathroom a few minutes later and loudly wondering what crawled up in my a** and died.

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@Berserk8989: My "agenda"? Bro, I'm socially Libertarian and politically/economically Socialist. I just don't remember her name and she looks like She-Hulk minus the green skin. While I have not played the game myself, I have watched numerous playthroughs and heard arguments from both sides of the aisle. My reason for not playing it is not political in any way. I cancelled my pre-order when it was announced that 2 would not have the multiplayer from the first game. I spent HUNDREDS of hours playing multiplayer in the first game and its exclusion from 2 meant it was no longer worth $60 to me since my two playthroughs of the first games single player accounted for maybe 10% of my total playtime.

I loved the first game and Ellies DLC was fantastic. TLoU2 just sucks. I didn't buy it at launch because they axed the multiplayer. I'm not buying it now because the story sucks and clashes HARD with the gameplay. Spec Ops: The Line at least had the decency to justify the wholesale slaughter with your character suffering a mental break for 90% of the game without you realizing. With TLoU2, it's just Ellie and roid girl lamenting the nature of humanity in cutscenes while gleefully beating people to death in the gameplay. Gameplay that actually looks really good, but is ruined just about any time a cutscene happens and the characters do stupid s***.

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@Berserk8989: It's a s*** story, bro. If a prospective audience can't get over the surface level of it, your story fails at it's most basic objective. TLoU2 is just a bad revenge story wherein you kill hundreds of people to get to your target only to "take the high road" in a wholly unsatisfying conclusion. Also find it laughable that the main character is distraught to the point of sickness over killing the second pregnant woman when she straight up executed one previously in another cutscene and seemingly didn't give a s***. Emotional "what have I done" story beats fail in their entirety when your main character agressively and without remorse kills hundreds between cutscenes. "OH NO WHAT HAVE I DONE?! WHAT HAVE I BECOME!?", your character screams seconds before slitting the throats of five dudes, one chick, and a dog while calling them all s***bags, losers, and getting off on the blood and viscera of her enemies.

Can we also appreciate how Sony is all about censoring panty shots and anime tits yet TLoU2 has a scene where She-Hulk is explicitly and in great detail railed raw dog from behind with no censoring whatsoever? Almost like Sony California HQ playing favorites with their golden boy.

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Someone needs to build an Ebay bot that "buys" all the scalpers consoles but just leaves them unpaid. Like have the scalper with seven PS5s think he just sold them all at $2000 a piece only to have the "purchases" sit in payment for a week. Then as soon as they re-list them, same happens again.

Fight bots with bots.

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@Atzenkiller: It wasn't a "few minutes". I had a PS5 in cart from the 6pm run. Made SURE not to refresh the page. Hit the Checkout button at 9:00:02pm. Got shunted to the "Sorry but we're very busy" reindeer page twice. Finally got to the checkout at around 45 seconds past 9. Entered my address. Failed to accept my address as valid five times (wft!? I live here! I know my own address!). Finally got it to accept my address at 9:01:30. Then the site shat itself for 45 seconds and told me they were sold out.

F*** Walmart.

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Good f***ing luck with Walmart. Bots are overloading their system. By the time you get the website to load, the consoles are gone. F*** you Walmart.

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Yeah. I don't believe a single word out of Todds mouth after 76.

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Only franchises Zenimax owned that I gave a shit about were Fallout and Elder Scrolls. After Blades and 76, I don't really care about Bethesda. Pre-Fallout 76 this Zenimax deal would have pushed me to get a Series X, but Beth pissed away my good will after the Blades and 76 mtx riddled cash grabs.

So me and my friends are still sticking with PS5.

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@dragoonmike: Except both PS3 and PS4 had HDD bays that were designed to be customer upgraded and accessed via a screwed in section of the shell. How is PS5 any different? You remove some plastic, there's the SSD expansion slot, slap an SSD in, reattach plastic, done.